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steel_horse75 05-11-2018 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1241236)
Ouch he struggled mightily through These Days. The recent performances from Sao Paulo and Newark were much better.

He struggles on nearly everything. Those who says he dont either refuse to accept it or cant remove their BJ Blinkers.

TheseDaysEra 05-11-2018 02:38 PM

why, o, why Johnny ?
The verses weren't unbearable but the choruses... geez.

At this point, I think Jon is trying to prove himself he's still got it.
Sure Jon, you're not a walking corpse or anything but damn, CHANGE THE KEY IF YOU WANNA DO THESE SONGS LIVE - seriously, no shame in admitting your vocal range isn't the same. it's better than sounding like Herb the perv from Family Guy.

bonjovi90 05-11-2018 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1241240)
He struggles on nearly everything. Those who says he dont either refuse to accept it or cant remove their BJ Blinkers.

He does, no doubt about that. But so far the recent stuff has at least been at a degree where I said that it's not really fun to watch on YT anymore, but probably good enough to enjoy it when you're there and there are enough factors to drown out the problems in the heat of the moment.
However, this TD performance was really hard to watch.

TwinFan 05-11-2018 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1241218)
JBJ LOOOVES These Days, diehards? for us would be other songs... included Dry County...

I'm not so sure about that. If I could only hear one I'd pick These Days 10 out of 10 times. I love Dry County, but These Days is a really special song.

Jeeper 05-11-2018 05:15 PM

I genuinely feel sorry for those fans who never saw them live at their peak.

The effort is there, but for every baby step forward, there’s several bigger steps back. Surely it’s time for Jon to think long and hard about whether to continue or not?




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angelsambo 05-11-2018 05:32 PM

BON JOVI BAD MEDICINE LIVE MSG NEW YORK MAY 10th 2018


BON JOVI LAY YOUR HANDS ON ME LIVE MSG NEW YORK MAY 10th 2018


Kathleen 05-11-2018 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinFan (Post 1241247)
I'm not so sure about that. If I could only hear one I'd pick These Days 10 out of 10 times. I love Dry County, but These Days is a really special song.

Yes it is. I have heard Dry County many, many times. But counting last night I have only heard These Days 3 times here in New York. I heard it several times in Europe though. Was it perfect last night? - no - but I didn't expect it to be. I got to hear it sung by the guy who made me fall in love with it. Jon worked his ass off last night and it showed - it was a very high energy show.

So you're not going to hear me diss any part of last night's show.

bonjovi90 05-11-2018 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1241254)
Yes it is. I have heard Dry County many, many times. But counting last night I have only heard These Days 3 times here in New York. I heard it several times in Europe though. Was it perfect last night? - no - but I didn't expect it to be. I got to hear it sung by the guy who made me fall in love with it. Jon worked his ass of last night and it showed - it was a very high energy show.

So you're not going to hear me diss any part of last night's show.

Same here, even though I've heard both equally often.
I absolutely agree that it probably was a great concert and Jon is trying much harder to be a proper frontman than he did from 2015-17. When I was Cologne, I though that he had sounded fantastic, only to realize on the bootleg that it was rather average.
It's great to hear that you can still enjoy it a lot when you're there (Thierry said the same), but all we have here are the videos and, well, it didn't sound good on there.
But at least he finally gave you some changes, unlike at the NMS shows in 2013 where it was basically the same on both nights.

bjcrazycpa 05-11-2018 07:57 PM

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bonjovi90 05-11-2018 07:57 PM

At which place was ITA played? In the encore?

liljovi93 05-11-2018 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1241261)
At which place was ITA played? In the encore?

Opened the encore.

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MellyMel 05-11-2018 08:30 PM

I’m glad it was a great show for those of you that were there. Jon really has worked the stage a lot more than last year and last tour. It’s great to see him moving around, regardless of his vocals.

Zakatar 05-11-2018 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bjcrazycpa (Post 1241260)
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Huh. Wasn't expecting to see HAND as an audible.

Adam D 05-11-2018 08:47 PM

I would have zero complaints with this setlist.

Shame I will never get such a strong set at my shows.

Rollercoaster, When We Were Us, In These Arms and These Days.
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YOVANAfromPeru 05-11-2018 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinFan (Post 1241247)
I'm not so sure about that. If I could only hear one I'd pick These Days 10 out of 10 times. I love Dry County, but These Days is a really special song.

I love These Days more than Dry County, TD is a really special song for me too, but I meant to diehards who were requesting DC

YOVANAfromPeru 05-11-2018 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zakatar (Post 1241265)
Huh. Wasn't expecting to see HAND as an audible.

HAND is a great song, I’m really glad that WGIGO and GBTM weren’t played last night lol

Falco 05-11-2018 09:20 PM

I'm just glad he's making an effort at switching up the shows a bit, even if it's just moving songs around. Last year was awful with those static setlists.

YOVANAfromPeru 05-11-2018 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Falco (Post 1241272)
I'm just glad he's making an effort at switching up the shows a bit, even if it's just moving songs around. Last year was awful with those static setlists.

I’m just glad he didn’t play I Love This Town last night! jajaj

Kathleen 05-11-2018 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1241257)
Same here, even though I've heard both equally often.
I absolutely agree that it probably was a great concert and Jon is trying much harder to be a proper frontman than he did from 2015-17. When I was Cologne, I though that he had sounded fantastic, only to realize on the bootleg that it was rather average.
It's great to hear that you can still enjoy it a lot when you're there (Thierry said the same), but all we have here are the videos and, well, it didn't sound good on there.
But at least he finally gave you some changes, unlike at the NMS shows in 2013 where it was basically the same on both nights.

Jon was much more like the frontman I remember - though without the voice. But still - he sounds good enough on some songs and some parts of songs that there is never a doubt as to who is singing. He still sounds like himself, just not all the time and he can't hit any of the higher notes anymore. Ronny said that the crowd was better on night 1 - I can tell you that Jon really worked that crowd last night until finally he had them eating out of his hand.

And here is a story from today. I was at my local farm buying veggies (despite what people think Northern Jersey has many working farms that are awesome). As I was checking out, a cashier about 21 years old came up to me and asked me if I was at the show last night. She saw my tattoo :D She was there too and she loved the show. So the almost 70 year old and the 21 year old both thought the show was great.

There is always a little voice in the back of my mind that says - this might be the last one. Pay attention and enjoy it. So I did :D

DavetheGodofKeys 05-11-2018 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1241274)
I’m just glad he didn’t play I Love This Town last night! jajaj

I'm glad that my prediction about I Love This Town returning was wrong!

Rdkopper 05-11-2018 10:16 PM

Oh come on...These Days wasn't nearly half as bad as I thought it would be based on all the comments...

He's singing in his 'now' voice.. The verses are fine... And struggling with the higher notes which is to be expected...

Overall not the worst I've heard...

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YOVANAfromPeru 05-11-2018 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DavetheGodofKeys (Post 1241276)
I'm glad that my prediction about I Love This Town returning was wrong!

glad glad
so we’re a bunch of glad persons >_< jaja

jovifan85 05-12-2018 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1241277)
Oh come on...These Days wasn't nearly half as bad as I thought it would be based on all the comments...

He's singing in his 'now' voice.. The verses are fine... And struggling with the higher notes which is to be expected...

Overall not the worst I've heard...

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Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't! Listening to MSG#2 on YT, he sounds good, except here on TD. But prefer to hear the songs, rather than not.....regardless how it may sound.

Falco 05-12-2018 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1241278)
glad glad
so we’re a bunch of glad persons >_< jaja

Glad All Over! :D

YOVANAfromPeru 05-12-2018 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Falco (Post 1241287)
Glad All Over! :D

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Captmorgs 05-12-2018 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 1241275)
There is always a little voice in the back of my mind that says - this might be the last one. Pay attention and enjoy it. So I did :D


Exactly how I feel Kathleen. This is how I approached my Milwaukee show. I do believe there will eventually be one more big tour when Richie comes to his senses, but that is 5+ years away. Enjoy what we have while we can.



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