Originally Posted by Falco (Post 1241450)

'Always' has been an audible at every show it seems, I mean, why? If you have no intentions of actually doing it anymore why bother typing it onto the set list?

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1241451)

Because lighting, guitar techs, the band etc need to be ready if Jon decides he wants to do it. I don't think it's a matter of not having an intention to do it, it probably just hasn't happened because of his voice.

Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1241452)

I think definitely it's a voice thing and I guess at some point Always going to be played? who knows?
there exists "Working Set Lists" and the audibles used to be: Water, Living In Sin, Beautiful, Crash, I Love This Town; now they are: I'll Be There For You, Always, These Days, Saturday Night
but at the end of the day, who knows? >_< lol

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1241451)

Because lighting, guitar techs, the band etc need to be ready if Jon decides he wants to do it. I don't think it's a matter of not having an intention to do it, it probably just hasn't happened because of his voice.

Originally Posted by Falco (Post 1241528)

Makes sense, and I think you just answered my question about audibles in general. Still curious as to how Jon decides the audibles, just depends how they feel that day?

Originally Posted by WhamATC (Post 1241541)

As I remember Jon has a small mic next to the drums so he can request an audible at any time without the crowd hearing his request (Separate mic as I said).

Originally Posted by Dave88 (Post 1241560)

Yeah it's widely used in big stages/productions to communicate with the tech guys.

There's a bootleg recorded in either Tokyo or Osaka taken from Jon's IEM where you can hear everything he says in that mic as well. I haven't listened to the bootleg for ages but I remember something like "bring me my electric, I'm doing Sleep next", while the rest of the band was playing the KTF outro jam.

Cant remember which tour was though. HAND maybe? Or even The Circle...

Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1241570)

Interesting. I've heard some IEM recordings, but never noticed that. Guess it was TC tour, since the jam didn't happen on the HAND tour, or did it? :confused:

Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1241570)

Interesting. I've heard some IEM recordings, but never noticed that. Guess it was TC tour, since the jam didn't happen on the HAND tour, or did it? :confused:

Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1241572)

The jam wasn't there in 2010 either when the band played in Japan (even with Phil in 2011 it was done during Lay Your Hands On Me). So I assume it's on the IEM bootleg from late 2013...

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1241579)

That sound right. Lay Your Hands On Me had the double time jam that in 2011, and when Richie left it was still there when Jon sang it and it disappeared around the same time the KTF jam started. I would assume the start of the WAN tour?

Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1241580)

That Lay Your Hands On Me jam was introduced in 2011 when Richie had left the tour and stayed for a few shows after his return (Hyde Park was the last one I think).
In 2013, the jam was moved from LYHOM to the end of KTF since it basically was the same, just added to a different track.

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1241581)

Hmmm are you sure? I could swear it started when Richie was still there. Maybe as early as Feb or March of 2011? Phil didn't join until Jazzfest, April of that year.

Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1241585)

Yeah you're right. I had only been thinking about the versions that Jon sang and he did it for the first time with the jam when Phil was on board. Richie had done it in early 2011 already.

Originally Posted by CamS (Post 1241591)

Watched this show from behind the stage and from the first verse of "This House'' I knew it was gonna be a tough set for Jon, the voice was tired already but the confidence was there until he flubbed the words to ''Because We Can''. Which was when I think the snowball started. It was so clear Jon's mind was somewhere else during the whole set and totally overthinking his singing, maybe the most forced performance I've ever seen in any concert.

The professionalism cannot be overlooked with this band and the front man, he did everything he could, and he does that every night.

When he ended up screwing up two verses of ''Bad Medicine'' it looked like it was painful and Jon looked embarrassed. I've been onstage and forgot lyrics to songs I've sung hundreds of times and I know how hard it is to mentally come back from it sometimes, and I could tell Jon was pissed and deflated.

Coming back for the Encore I watched the backstage, as I found out later, the band was informed that they were cutting ''I'll Be There For You'' and ''Saturday Night''. Jon was clearly pissed before putting on the Smile and walking up the steps to start ''Make A Memory''.

If I am not mistaken Jon was the first to walk off the stage after a super quick bow after ''Prayer'' and I am not sure who he was looking at coming off stage but when he saw the person his faced went totally pissed and deflated again and the fake smile was totally gone.

All in all, a great night of music with my favorite band in a great city, but a struggle mentally and physically for the lead singer.

Originally Posted by CamS (Post 1241591)

Watched this show from behind the stage and from the first verse of "This House'' I knew it was gonna be a tough set for Jon, the voice was tired already but the confidence was there until he flubbed the words to ''Because We Can''. Which was when I think the snowball started. It was so clear Jon's mind was somewhere else during the whole set and totally overthinking his singing, maybe the most forced performance I've ever seen in any concert.

The professionalism cannot be overlooked with this band and the front man, he did everything he could, and he does that every night.

When he ended up screwing up two verses of ''Bad Medicine'' it looked like it was painful and Jon looked embarrassed. I've been onstage and forgot lyrics to songs I've sung hundreds of times and I know how hard it is to mentally come back from it sometimes, and I could tell Jon was pissed and deflated.

Coming back for the Encore I watched the backstage, as I found out later, the band was informed that they were cutting ''I'll Be There For You'' and ''Saturday Night''. Jon was clearly pissed before putting on the Smile and walking up the steps to start ''Make A Memory''.

If I am not mistaken Jon was the first to walk off the stage after a super quick bow after ''Prayer'' and I am not sure who he was looking at coming off stage but when he saw the person his faced went totally pissed and deflated again and the fake smile was totally gone.

All in all, a great night of music with my favorite band in a great city, but a struggle mentally and physically for the lead singer.

Originally Posted by CamS (Post 1241591)

Watched this show from behind the stage and from the first verse of "This House'' I knew it was gonna be a tough set for Jon, the voice was tired already but the confidence was there until he flubbed the words to ''Because We Can''. Which was when I think the snowball started. It was so clear Jon's mind was somewhere else during the whole set and totally overthinking his singing, maybe the most forced performance I've ever seen in any concert.

The professionalism cannot be overlooked with this band and the front man, he did everything he could, and he does that every night.

When he ended up screwing up two verses of ''Bad Medicine'' it looked like it was painful and Jon looked embarrassed. I've been onstage and forgot lyrics to songs I've sung hundreds of times and I know how hard it is to mentally come back from it sometimes, and I could tell Jon was pissed and deflated.

Coming back for the Encore I watched the backstage, as I found out later, the band was informed that they were cutting ''I'll Be There For You'' and ''Saturday Night''. Jon was clearly pissed before putting on the Smile and walking up the steps to start ''Make A Memory''.

If I am not mistaken Jon was the first to walk off the stage after a super quick bow after ''Prayer'' and I am not sure who he was looking at coming off stage but when he saw the person his face went totally pissed and deflated again and the fake smile was totally gone.

All in all, a great night of music with my favorite band in a great city, but a struggle mentally and physically for the lead singer.

Originally Posted by daveyshaker (Post 1241603)

Interesting perception. Glad you still enjoyed the show.

He could easily have just done a Wanted and Prayer encore so at least he threw Memory in there which sounded very good on the recording I got.

From the front he looked a lot, lot happier than the last few tours that I saw him in 5 years ago. Either way he and the band gave it their all. It annoys me when he’s called lazy after a show like that. They guy’s 56 and was all over the stage all night giving his everything! If he drops some songs I don’t think it’s because he wants an early night!

Hopefully they have two good Montreal shows now that spur them onto come back to Europe!

Originally Posted by daveyshaker (Post 1241603)

It annoys me when he’s called lazy after a show like that.

Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1241611)

I just think he can sometimes take the easy way out at times