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YOVANAfromPeru 05-18-2018 09:12 AM

you are more dramatic than me

Zakatar 05-18-2018 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kleman (Post 1241693)

good god that voice crack...he's probably rich enough to buy the late Stephen Hawking's speech-generating machine to use for a few years after tomorrow's show so his voice can repair...

liljovi93 05-18-2018 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Zacm95 (Post 1241682)
I think Always is more likely tomorrow. Maybe dry county as well

After THAT voice crack?? No way!



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danfan 05-18-2018 12:08 PM

Not to beat a dead horse, but Christ, enough. Pains me to say it, but it's getting embarrassing now. He can't sing anymore. Someone close needs to tell him.

BJFan99 05-18-2018 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by danfan (Post 1241715)
Not to beat a dead horse, but Christ, enough. Pains me to say it, but it's getting embarrassing now. He can't sing anymore. Someone close needs to tell him.

I agree. It's actually more than embarrassing; it's absolutely f*cking horrifying. Please, Jon - retire.

PS. And please, Rosa - don't come anywhere near this discussion...

nikos greece 05-18-2018 01:30 PM

he needs just to rearrange some songs a note lower, not such a big deal..
many here are overdramatic demanding perfection...this note is obviously out of reach at this point for jon, on a good day with warm up etc etc he may had hitted it, when you sing high its common to have a crack once or twice, sounds bad but it can happen, it means nth at all...
a mistake can put you off but we should enjoy each song as a whole. i remember myself in the past critisizing richie for being sloppy because he might hit 2-3 false notes in a 2,5 h set...nowdays listening to the new guitarists of bj i have reaveluate my past criticism...i was wrong, in a live setting you ll make mistakes, a live performance can have flaws and still contain some magic..
having said all that i think jon must continue to work on his voice, change a couple hard melodies that are too high and downtune certain songs a whole step .
ps.in the studio environment where the singers push themselves to their limits i d like to see the vocal recording of always for example and who the fans would react if the realised how hard that song is ...live is 10 times easier for example...jons voice probably cracked again and again ...it means nth..

kleman 05-18-2018 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nikos greece (Post 1241717)
he needs just to rearrange some songs a note lower, not such a big deal..
many here are overdramatic demanding perfection...this note is obviously out of reach at this point for jon, on a good day with warm up etc etc he may had hitted it, when you sing high its common to have a crack once or twice, sounds bad but it can happen, it means nth at all...
a mistake can put you off but we should enjoy each song as a whole. i remember myself in the past critisizing richie for being sloppy because he might hit 2-3 false notes in a 2,5 h set...nowdays listening to the new guitarists of bj i have reaveluate my past criticism...i was wrong, in a live setting you ll make mistakes, a live performance can have flaws and still contain some magic..
having said all that i think jon must continue to work on his voice, change a couple hard melodies that are too high and downtune certain songs a whole step .
ps.in the studio environment where the singers push themselves to their limits i d like to see the vocal recording of always for example and who the fans would react if the realised how hard that song is ...live is 10 times easier for example...jons voice probably cracked again and again ...it means nth..

You got it! must agree here.

bjcrazycpa 05-18-2018 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1241716)
I agree. It's actually more than embarrassing; it's absolutely f*cking horrifying. Please, Jon - retire.

PS. And please, Rosa - don't come anywhere near this discussion...

If the only aspect of a good show was the vocals, and granted that is a big part for me, then I would agree with you. But, a rock and roll show is so much more than the vocals. Jon still has the other aspects of a great front man. If he stops attempting the difficult songs then their's bitching, if he tries, and sounds bad, voice cracks, etc, then he's hung on the cross and crucified. I could be wrong but i don't think he will stop performing any time soon. For me, I'd still rather him try.

bjcrazycpa 05-18-2018 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nikos greece (Post 1241717)
he needs just to rearrange some songs a note lower, not such a big deal..
many here are overdramatic demanding perfection...this note is obviously out of reach at this point for jon, on a good day with warm up etc etc he may had hitted it, when you sing high its common to have a crack once or twice, sounds bad but it can happen, it means nth at all...
a mistake can put you off but we should enjoy each song as a whole. i remember myself in the past critisizing richie for being sloppy because he might hit 2-3 false notes in a 2,5 h set...nowdays listening to the new guitarists of bj i have reaveluate my past criticism...i was wrong, in a live setting you ll make mistakes, a live performance can have flaws and still contain some magic..
having said all that i think jon must continue to work on his voice, change a couple hard melodies that are too high and downtune certain songs a whole step .
ps.in the studio environment where the singers push themselves to their limits i d like to see the vocal recording of always for example and who the fans would react if the realised how hard that song is ...live is 10 times easier for example...jons voice probably cracked again and again ...it means nth..

This is how I feel.

Rdkopper 05-18-2018 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1241716)
I agree. It's actually more than embarrassing; it's absolutely f*cking horrifying. Please, Jon - retire.

PS. And please, Rosa - don't come anywhere near this discussion...

I'll jump on this one and say you are all way too overdramatic.

You take one butched note or one song that's out of his "now range" and base the rest of his career on it. TBH, I think he sang most of it pretty decent.

He also sounded pretty good on When We Were Beautiful and more than a handful of other songs so I say keep going...

hackster73 05-18-2018 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas S (Post 1241695)
That voice crack at 5:25 was brutal...

Good to hear Beautiful again.

oh dear

I don't know why he needs to try for that note? Surely he can just sing that lower..

YOVANAfromPeru 05-18-2018 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1241634)
He's back to the previews audibles? O_O

Setlist is on BJ instagram story, I love this town was the only Audible and Dry County was printed instead of These Days

WhamATC 05-18-2018 11:06 PM

Cracks sometimes happen due to too much tension in throat. Not always the case that it's out of range, etc.
Jon has pretty much ignored correct singing technique since 2013 - 15 anyways.
Jon needs to just lower notes that he can't hit.

Zakatar 05-18-2018 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1241736)
Setlist is on BJ instagram story, I love this town was the only Audible and Dry County was printed instead of These Days

They should've kept DC, but they probably skipped it due to running low on time, as TD isn't as long as DC. This possibly means there's an excellent chance of hearing DC tonight though

DavetheGodofKeys 05-19-2018 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Zakatar (Post 1241740)
They should've kept DC, but they probably skipped it due to running low on time, as TD isn't as long as DC. This possibly means there's an excellent chance of hearing DC tonight though

I'm 99% sure that they won't play Dry County tonight.

liljovi93 05-19-2018 12:18 AM

I think Have A Nice Day will be played tonight.

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BJFan99 05-19-2018 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1241742)
I think Have A Nice Day will be played tonight.

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Holy shit, what a precious rarity that is! :D

liljovi93 05-19-2018 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1241743)
Holy shit, what a precious rarity that is! :D

Haha. Literally only saying that as Shanks put something up about HAND earlier. Can see it being back in the set list.

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YOVANAfromPeru 05-19-2018 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1241744)
Haha. Literally only saying that as Shanks put something up about HAND earlier. Can see it being back in the set list.

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like when he posted an instagram story with David playing and you could see the setlist of that night before the concert?
that’s why JBJ always says that Shanks is a pain in the ass >_< jajaj (they all are) >_< lol, the only smart boy is JBJ.

YOVANAfromPeru 05-19-2018 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Zakatar (Post 1241740)
They should've kept DC, but they probably skipped it due to running low on time, as TD isn't as long as DC.

I said before JBJ prefers TD than DC but no one gets my posts!

liljovi93 05-19-2018 01:40 AM

No idea. I'm just predicting it could get played. I could be wrong.

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Jeeper 05-19-2018 01:10 PM

Jon needs a break from singing. At least live. He physically cannot sing a lot of his own songs anymore and the mental pressure he’s clearly putting himself under when trying to is perpetuating the problem further.


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YOVANAfromPeru 05-21-2018 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kleman (Post 1241693)

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Originally Posted by Thomas S (Post 1241695)
That voice crack at 5:25 was brutal...

6:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEHP...ature=youtu.be

BJFan99 05-21-2018 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1241970)

What do you mean? He's on key there, just screaming. The Montreal version got an uncontrolled crack at the same point.

bonjovi90 05-23-2018 11:27 AM

Soundboard audio

Jeeper 05-23-2018 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1242029)



Jon actually sounds like a little girl at times...[emoji102]


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bonjovi90 05-23-2018 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeeper (Post 1242031)
Jon actually sounds like a little girl at times...[emoji102]


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That's what I thought when I had heard Knockout for the first time...

Bounce7800 05-23-2018 12:31 PM

Not sure what was going on around the 3min mark with some out of sync drum noises. Might have been the recording, or something up as there was someone crawling around Ticos kit around that time on the vid too.

YOVANAfromPeru 05-23-2018 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1242029)

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1241622)

this is a complete mess: compare with this video (especially before the outro) and images 4:30 are from May 18 (JBJ color jacket); JBJ voice sounds like 2017 audio...


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