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Bounce7800 05-23-2018 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1242026)

A set list worthy of the bands talents. Less is more.

Disagree with less is more. It's just clearing out the deadwood, this band has many many good songs that they could easily do killer 21-25 song setlists with plenty of changes if they wanted to. A shorter setlist wouldn't make things better, as you'd just have a 15 song setlist with WLOL and Lost Highway still there!

steel_horse75 05-23-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bounce7800 (Post 1242027)
Disagree with less is more. It's just clearing out the deadwood, this band has many many good songs that they could easily do killer 21-25 song setlists with plenty of changes if they wanted to. A shorter setlist wouldn't make things better, as you'd just have a 15 song setlist with WLOL and Lost Highway still there!

At this precise time it doesnt matter if the set is 10 or 25 songs. Its just not the same anymore.

prayer_84 05-23-2018 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bounce7800 (Post 1242027)
Disagree with less is more. It's just clearing out the deadwood, this band has many many good songs that they could easily do killer 21-25 song setlists with plenty of changes if they wanted to. A shorter setlist wouldn't make things better, as you'd just have a 15 song setlist with WLOL and Lost Highway still there!


The WLOL/Lost Highway combo should be replaced by the Dry County/ These Days combo - for every single show with no exception. To this day I cannot for the life of me understand why Dry County and These Days are not setlist staples - they are easily among Bon Jovi's top 5 greatest songs while WLOL/Lost Highway were NEVER in the same league. I didn't mind them when the Lost Highway record came out in 2007 but I have since grown to DETEST them just because Jon keeps putting them on each new tour. I'm sick and tired of seeing them on the set when other real gems are left dead and buried deep in the back catalogue. That being said, I'll remember the THINFS tour as the tour with the WORST EVER setlists as a whole.

Walleris 05-23-2018 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by prayer_84 (Post 1242047)
The WLOL/Lost Highway combo should be replaced by the Dry County/ These Days combo - for every single show with no exception. To this day I cannot for the life of me understand why Dry County and These Days are not setlist staples - they are easily among Bon Jovi's top 5 greatest songs while WLOL/Lost Highway were NEVER in the same league. I didn't mind them when the Lost Highway record came out in 2007 but I have since grown to DETEST them just because Jon keeps putting them on each new tour. I'm sick and tired of seeing them on the set when other real gems are left dead and buried deep in the back catalogue. That being said, I'll remember the THINFS tour as the tour with the WORST EVER setlists as a whole.

If you really "for the life" understand this, you must be new to the concept of a setlist being constructed taking into account songs' demands on vocal chords.

Jon has an approximate 'x' number of songs per night that he pushes himself (yes, I'm talking about the 'unsustainable 120% effort'). He has done it for ages, even when his voice was still decent, it's just that that 'x' number has gone down with the years.

WhamATC 05-23-2018 08:42 PM

If I was a singer I wouldn't sing Dry County or Hey God every night. Unsafe for most voices at the chorus, etc.
I would only have them in rotation with other songs.
Jon's voice has never really been suitable for HG for example.

bonjovi90 05-23-2018 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1242048)
If you really "for the life" understand this, you must be new to the concept of a setlist being constructed taking into account songs' demands on vocal chords.

Exactly. Besides the fact that he always switches between fan favourites and the ones he likes to play (which unfortunately rarely to never seem to be the same), it's also about how taxing they are on the vocals.

Even as far back as 1993, Dry County and In These Arms got played less and less once Jon's voice started to suffer from strain around the summertime.

YOVANAfromPeru 05-23-2018 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Walleris (Post 1242048)
(yes, I'm talking about the 'unsustainable 120% effort')

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WhamATC 05-23-2018 09:54 PM

They should sometimes play some Circle tracks.
I haven't really checked how difficult Bullet is but they could play Bullet if easy enough.

By the way the beginning of Happy Now really reminds me of I Believe.

james_d 05-23-2018 10:04 PM

I don't think the problem is really the songs they play in of itself, it's the variety of songs. Whilst I enjoyed this tour, it had the same skeleton setlist every night. Songs like LH, WGIGO etc could be nice to hear if they weren't overplayed. Songs like Superman Tonight, Diamond Ring or even Labor of Love could make nice surprises, or even just be in rotation. Just my thoughts on the matter, given the restrictions placed on the band my Jon's limited singing these days, although he was better than last year both vocally and as a front man.

KeepTheFaith2211 05-23-2018 10:05 PM

It's not even about rarities for me. There's just not that many 'good' songs played nowadays.


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