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bonjovi90 01-31-2020 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1261213)
I think the biggest difference is Not Running Anymore wasn't on the proper album. The fact that, last we heard, the new album has ten songs and one of them was released in correlation to a documentary is an odd choice but so much time has passed I really think we'll get a standard twelve song album. Who knows, maybe Unbroken got knocked off of it since then.

I'll go on a limb here and say that if Not Running Anymore had been in post-Richie era, it would've been on the album, just like Reunion and (possibly) Unbroken. Now that it's effectively JBJ & Friends under the flagship of Bon Jovi, these lines have been blurred.

bonjovi90 01-31-2020 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Faceman (Post 1261217)
I think Jon just realised that Bon Jovi are a nostalgia act by now and so decided to release the album called 2020 in the year 2021 to emphasize his new realization.

Haha that'd be such an amount of self-realization that I'd celebrate that :D

And then some dead serious promo interviews in 2021: "You know, 2020 is such a universal title that can have a different meaning to anyone, much like Crush or Slippery When Wet. I realized that, in these trouble times we live in, once you start chasing fads, you're always a day late. And I've been doing that for so long that I found a great relieve in naming the album like that....aaaand it's also got a social conscious meaning!"

JerseyGiant 01-31-2020 11:01 PM

My guess ... The record company have decided they dont want to promote a bore fest of songs in the vain of 'Unbroken' (Great cause, ****ing snoozefest) and have demanded some killer tracks ... Fine ... I'll bore off 😜

Captain_jovi 02-01-2020 12:23 AM

The idea that the record company wants killer tracks though......are we really saying we're not getting good songs because the record company isn't involved? The record company is why we got Wildflower, Everybody's Broken etc. I'd think it's the opposite effect.

Captain_jovi 02-01-2020 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1261219)
I'll go on a limb here and say that if Not Running Anymore had been in post-Richie era, it would've been on the album, just like Reunion and (possibly) Unbroken. Now that it's effectively JBJ & Friends under the flagship of Bon Jovi, these lines have been blurred.

I don't know if I agree but I sorta get why that'd be possible. It just doesn't fit the vibe of the record at all. It needs to sound like that to fit the lyrical content and reworking it to fit how the album sounds would go against what the song is....? If that makes sense?

YOVANAfromPeru 02-01-2020 12:27 AM

Yeah, Reunion was written because his speech for the "Dr. Bon Jovi" thing...
And speaking of Pollstar, on the February issue there's a little mention of JBJ about the Billy Joel thing... (nothing new).

JackieBlue 02-01-2020 02:45 AM

I appreciate what you guys are saying; but I see significant differences between your examples and "Unbroken". The main one being the fact that those songs weren't released as band singles. "Unbroken" was promoted, by Bon Jovi official (Twitter, YT), the streaming sites, and Amazon, as a single by Bon Jovi. I think the only place Jon was credited as the artist was in the credits of To Be of Service.

I don't recall Jon saying it was a side project or any question of it being included on the album; but maybe I missed it. (Kinda like I missed the teleprompters in the Billy Joel performance). :rolleyes:
IIRC, the first specific statement Jon made about any of the music on the new album was that "one of the songs is a PTSD song." In the "Unbroken" trailer, Jon did say that it was written for the film; but he also said "it will be featured on our forthcoming album Bon Jovi: 2020."

So, yes, it was written for the documentary, and nobody ever said, specifically, that it was "the first single from our upcoming album." But it was clearly the first song from the album to be released as a single; and it was consistently given as an example of the content on the band's new 'socially conscious' album. So, aside from them choosing to call it that, it still doesn't make sense to me why another song will be considered the "first (or debut) single" from the album.

Not a big deal, anyway; it's just a riddle to me. Thanks for trying to clear it up.

Captain_jovi 02-01-2020 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JackieBlue (Post 1261226)
I appreciate what you guys are saying; but I see significant differences between your examples and "Unbroken". The main one being the fact that those songs weren't released as band singles. "Unbroken" was promoted, by Bon Jovi official (Twitter, YT), the streaming sites, and Amazon, as a single by Bon Jovi. I think the only place Jon was credited as the artist was in the credits of To Be of Service.

I don't recall Jon saying it was a side project or any question of it being included on the album; but maybe I missed it. (Kinda like I missed the teleprompters in the Billy Joel performance). :rolleyes:
IIRC, the first specific statement Jon made about any of the music on the new album was that "one of the songs is a PTSD song." In the "Unbroken" trailer, Jon did say that it was written for the film; but he also said "it will be featured on our forthcoming album Bon Jovi: 2020."

So, yes, it was written for the documentary, and nobody ever said, specifically, that it was "the first single from our upcoming album." But it was clearly the first song from the album to be released as a single; and it was consistently given as an example of the content on the band's new 'socially conscious' album. So, aside from them choosing to call it that, it still doesn't make sense to me why another song will be considered the "first (or debut) single" from the album.

Not a big deal, anyway; it's just a riddle to me. Thanks for trying to clear it up.

Yeah it's an odd choice. It's kind of like, and this is VERY dated, Barenaked Ladies's song Shoebox from Born on a Pirate Ship was on the Friends soundtrack and had it's own video but the first single and the one that got more media exposure was The Old Apartment. Like that Unbroken was the first song released but doesn't necessarily represent the release...? I don't get it, Unbroken is somehow the first single without being the first single haha.

steel_horse75 02-01-2020 11:24 AM

Maybe jbj listened again and realised the album was rubbish so hes writing another one with fist pumping stadium anthems, cracking solos with Richie back in the band.

If only.....

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rolo_tomachi 02-01-2020 02:21 PM

The video was recording 24th January, so is question of days. Keep Calm. The new single is coming soon.


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