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Rdkopper 02-19-2020 03:01 AM

I'm really struggling here... It's not a matter of liking or hating the song... I'll wait to hear the entire thing to make that decision...

What I can judge is the production and the first verse which is nothing but pure shit. I'm sure listening to These Days today definitely didn't help things however this is just "another one of those songs"...

It's We Don't Run, meets Knockout, meets Beautiful World, meets The More Things Change, meets Walls...

I don't mind these songs as fillers, bonus tracks, etc but this should not be leading the album...

Shanks and Jovi have zero chemistry. Even when I go back to HAND, when Jon still had some natural talent left in him, I still never dug Shanks production... Considering Jon spent 3 days in the studio (or a very limited time), I get why he still uses the guy but this is just terrible...

No substance, no depth, and zero emotion from Jon...

I think the vocals are done in one take and then they just do anything with them after that... Slow them down, speed them up, filter the tone, take about bad notes, change the pitch etc.

I just don't get it.



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angelsambo 02-19-2020 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1261631)
I just don't get it.

you are not the only one who feels like that

musiccritic101 02-19-2020 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1261631)
No substance, no depth, and zero emotion from Jon...


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I kinda think Jon has just been pumping out albums just for the sake of it,for me it all started with the What About Now album,I feel like Jon just randomly writes songs and records them and throws them together and calls it an album and we end up with songs that sound unfinished or over-proccessed or lyrics that sound mediocre.

thesedays2014 02-19-2020 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1261595)
Okay. The production on Jon's vocals lends itself well to it. The words are faster paced than I thought which while I LOVE, songs at this speed get Jon so out of breath. But I'm liking this more than I thought I would.

Best song since These Days isn’t it?

That vocal melody really gives it a different vibe 😹 (sorry)

Dave88 02-19-2020 08:03 AM

It will be a tragedy live.

Xavi 02-19-2020 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1261631)
I'm really struggling here... It's not a matter of liking or hating the song... I'll wait to hear the entire thing to make that decision...

What I can judge is the production and the first verse which is nothing but pure shit. I'm sure listening to These Days today definitely didn't help things however this is just "another one of those songs"...

It's We Don't Run, meets Knockout, meets Beautiful World, meets The More Things Change, meets Walls...

I don't mind these songs as fillers, bonus tracks, etc but this should not be leading the album...

Shanks and Jovi have zero chemistry. Even when I go back to HAND, when Jon still had some natural talent left in him, I still never dug Shanks production... Considering Jon spent 3 days in the studio (or a very limited time), I get why he still uses the guy but this is just terrible...

No substance, no depth, and zero emotion from Jon...

I think the vocals are done in one take and then they just do anything with them after that... Slow them down, speed them up, filter the tone, take about bad notes, change the pitch etc.

I just don't get it.



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I agree with you 100%.
Shanks colaboration with BJ should have finished in The Circle.
They are in a very comfortable zone,I dont need to listen to the new album to know how it is going to sound and how the new songs are going to be.
It is just more of the same record over record over record.
Jon has no more passion on music anymore,its just his work.He releases new records and play small legs of tours just like we go to our works.
The passion for music is long gone,I think since LHighway or even before.

Rdkopper 02-19-2020 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave88 (Post 1261635)
It will be a tragedy live.

I've given up on everything live.

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Captain.Crash 02-19-2020 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by musiccritic101 (Post 1261633)
I kinda think Jon has just been pumping out albums just for the sake of it,for me it all started with the What About Now album,I feel like Jon just randomly writes songs and records them and throws them together and calls it an album and we end up with songs that sound unfinished or over-proccessed or lyrics that sound mediocre.

Remember his end goal.... To own an NFL team. And last time he tried his net worth wasn't enough to partner with very rich people (companies).

I've always believed that these tours and albums is for that sole purpose.

Savvi 02-19-2020 03:01 PM

I don't mind the snippet. Doesn't sound as great as Walls (which I'm a big fan off), but I'll reserve proper judgement until I hear the full thing.

Sounds better than THINFS. I don't mind THINFS as a song but it didn't grab me all that much.

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1261629)
Probably, but I admire Jon for being brave and giving us a faster song. I mean, a studio album will last, so he has to think about giving the best he can on the record, because honestly, it doesn't matter anymore live things, however, the album can show his best and hide his lacks. WWWU and Walls were proof of that. I hope that in this new album, at least, John Shanks does some magic to show us the best that Jon can show.

I couldn't agree with you more Rolo. Studio album will last longer than a tour.

JoviForever 02-19-2020 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by musiccritic101 (Post 1261633)
I kinda think Jon has just been pumping out albums just for the sake of it,for me it all started with the What About Now album,I feel like Jon just randomly writes songs and records them and throws them together and calls it an album and we end up with songs that sound unfinished or over-proccessed or lyrics that sound mediocre.

I agree - it’s just a means to an end. Richie may have gone off the rails and made some wrong decisions over the years but I always felt from him that music is a passion. You don’t get that from Jon.☹️


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