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steel_horse75 02-18-2020 08:20 PM

Same twangy guitar. How about some ****ing riffs.


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rolo_tomachi 02-18-2020 08:25 PM

Can someone transcribe the lyrics?

Eveline 02-18-2020 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1261603)
Can someone transcribe the lyrics?

wake up
everybody wake up
hear the call
it's just another day
another buzz, another beep
scrub your face and brush your teeth
out the door and into the street
I fell out of my sleep
a million different faces
all from different places
swimming in the sea
trying to keep your head above water

angelsambo 02-18-2020 08:43 PM

more pop than rock,hate the shanks production

rolo_tomachi 02-18-2020 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eveline (Post 1261604)
wake up
everybody wake up
hear the call
it's just another day
another buzz, another beep
scrub your face and brush your teeth
out the door and into the street
I fell out of my sleep
a million different faces
all from different places
swimming in the sea
trying to keep your head above water

Thanks!!! :D

Eveline 02-18-2020 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1261606)
Thanks!!! :D

No prob :D

Johny 02-18-2020 08:58 PM

Too fast for Jon even to pronounce live let alone sing..

rolo_tomachi 02-18-2020 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eveline (Post 1261604)
wake up
everybody wake up
hear the call
it's just another day
another buzz, another beep
scrub your face and brush your teeth
out the door and into the street
I fell out of my sleep
a million different faces
all from different places
swimming in the sea
trying to keep your head above water

I think I liked more these lyrics written and invented by a fan.

"there are always ten good reason
to pack up all your things and give up
sometimes this world is so deceiving
the finish line is not worth the road
i feel so tired of fighting, trying, crying and breathing in
then i think how i got this far
i feel you aint seen nothing yet"



I think some fans could write better Bon Jovi songs than JBJ and John Shanks. lol

Eveline 02-18-2020 09:10 PM

wow I think I like the *unofficial* lyrics better :D

bonjovi90 02-18-2020 09:23 PM

Rumour has it that Jon visited an elementary school in his hometown and let the kids come up with rhymes for his song. But they were too deep for the current Jovi sound, so he went with his own in the end... :mrgreen:

Xavi 02-18-2020 10:19 PM

First time in my life Im not interested on a new BJ song.
Didnt hear the snippet,I will wait until Thursday to listen to the whole song but,my illusion on new music by BJ is over.
Too many delusions,and,adding that I read here that the song is Knockout twin,a song that I dont like,it does not help.

Jovi98 02-18-2020 10:34 PM

https://twitter.com/IslandRecords/st...327467520?s=20

The snippet.

rolo_tomachi 02-18-2020 11:11 PM

Well, now we need to know several things,

What will the album cover be like?
What will be the Track List?
Will there be bonus tracks?
When will the album be released?

Santa Fe 02-18-2020 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1261614)
First time in my life Im not interested on a new BJ song.
Didnt hear the snippet,I will wait until Thursday to listen to the whole song but,my illusion on new music by BJ is over.
Too many delusions,and,adding that I read here that the song is Knockout twin,a song that I dont like,it does not help.

Am I the one who loves Knockout ?
I like more Knockout than the new snippet.
Some techno sound for me .

Santa Fe 02-18-2020 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1261616)
Well, now we need to know several things,

What will the album cover be like?
What will be the Track List?
Will there be bonus tracks?
When will the album be released?

Maybe in Spring

Rdkopper 02-18-2020 11:47 PM

One thing that is driving me insane and is stuck in my head is Jon making his voice beep when he says the word 'beep'.

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bonjovi90 02-19-2020 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1261622)
One thing that is driving me insane and is stuck in my head is Jon making his voice beep when he says the word 'beep'.

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First "garbage trucks backing up - beep beep beep" on the last album and now this one with him actually making his voice beep. Talk about evolution :D

musiccritic101 02-19-2020 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny (Post 1261609)
Too fast for Jon even to pronounce live let alone sing..

Jon may likely end up slowing down the tempo of the song or just singing out of sync with music like he uses does on most of the band's songs these days. Or even just getting the winner of the SingBonJovi competition to perform the song.

Either way it's gonna take a miracle for Jon to even sing a fast paced song like this decently.

rolo_tomachi 02-19-2020 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musiccritic101 (Post 1261627)
Jon may likely end up slowing down the tempo of the song or just singing out of sync with music like he uses does on most of the band's songs these days. Or even just getting the winner of the SingBonJovi competition to perform the song.

Either way it's gonna take a miracle for Jon to even sing a fast paced song like this decently.

Probably, but I admire Jon for being brave and giving us a faster song. I mean, a studio album will last, so he has to think about giving the best he can on the record, because honestly, it doesn't matter anymore live things, however, the album can show his best and hide his lacks. WWWU and Walls were proof of that. I hope that in this new album, at least, John Shanks does some magic to show us the best that Jon can show.

fanofrem 02-19-2020 01:19 AM

Like the bass on it.
And the band should be called Shanks Jovi now.


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Rdkopper 02-19-2020 03:01 AM

I'm really struggling here... It's not a matter of liking or hating the song... I'll wait to hear the entire thing to make that decision...

What I can judge is the production and the first verse which is nothing but pure shit. I'm sure listening to These Days today definitely didn't help things however this is just "another one of those songs"...

It's We Don't Run, meets Knockout, meets Beautiful World, meets The More Things Change, meets Walls...

I don't mind these songs as fillers, bonus tracks, etc but this should not be leading the album...

Shanks and Jovi have zero chemistry. Even when I go back to HAND, when Jon still had some natural talent left in him, I still never dug Shanks production... Considering Jon spent 3 days in the studio (or a very limited time), I get why he still uses the guy but this is just terrible...

No substance, no depth, and zero emotion from Jon...

I think the vocals are done in one take and then they just do anything with them after that... Slow them down, speed them up, filter the tone, take about bad notes, change the pitch etc.

I just don't get it.



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angelsambo 02-19-2020 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1261631)
I just don't get it.

you are not the only one who feels like that

musiccritic101 02-19-2020 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1261631)
No substance, no depth, and zero emotion from Jon...


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I kinda think Jon has just been pumping out albums just for the sake of it,for me it all started with the What About Now album,I feel like Jon just randomly writes songs and records them and throws them together and calls it an album and we end up with songs that sound unfinished or over-proccessed or lyrics that sound mediocre.

thesedays2014 02-19-2020 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1261595)
Okay. The production on Jon's vocals lends itself well to it. The words are faster paced than I thought which while I LOVE, songs at this speed get Jon so out of breath. But I'm liking this more than I thought I would.

Best song since These Days isn’t it?

That vocal melody really gives it a different vibe 😹 (sorry)

Dave88 02-19-2020 08:03 AM

It will be a tragedy live.

Xavi 02-19-2020 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1261631)
I'm really struggling here... It's not a matter of liking or hating the song... I'll wait to hear the entire thing to make that decision...

What I can judge is the production and the first verse which is nothing but pure shit. I'm sure listening to These Days today definitely didn't help things however this is just "another one of those songs"...

It's We Don't Run, meets Knockout, meets Beautiful World, meets The More Things Change, meets Walls...

I don't mind these songs as fillers, bonus tracks, etc but this should not be leading the album...

Shanks and Jovi have zero chemistry. Even when I go back to HAND, when Jon still had some natural talent left in him, I still never dug Shanks production... Considering Jon spent 3 days in the studio (or a very limited time), I get why he still uses the guy but this is just terrible...

No substance, no depth, and zero emotion from Jon...

I think the vocals are done in one take and then they just do anything with them after that... Slow them down, speed them up, filter the tone, take about bad notes, change the pitch etc.

I just don't get it.



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I agree with you 100%.
Shanks colaboration with BJ should have finished in The Circle.
They are in a very comfortable zone,I dont need to listen to the new album to know how it is going to sound and how the new songs are going to be.
It is just more of the same record over record over record.
Jon has no more passion on music anymore,its just his work.He releases new records and play small legs of tours just like we go to our works.
The passion for music is long gone,I think since LHighway or even before.

Rdkopper 02-19-2020 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave88 (Post 1261635)
It will be a tragedy live.

I've given up on everything live.

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Captain.Crash 02-19-2020 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musiccritic101 (Post 1261633)
I kinda think Jon has just been pumping out albums just for the sake of it,for me it all started with the What About Now album,I feel like Jon just randomly writes songs and records them and throws them together and calls it an album and we end up with songs that sound unfinished or over-proccessed or lyrics that sound mediocre.

Remember his end goal.... To own an NFL team. And last time he tried his net worth wasn't enough to partner with very rich people (companies).

I've always believed that these tours and albums is for that sole purpose.

Savvi 02-19-2020 03:01 PM

I don't mind the snippet. Doesn't sound as great as Walls (which I'm a big fan off), but I'll reserve proper judgement until I hear the full thing.

Sounds better than THINFS. I don't mind THINFS as a song but it didn't grab me all that much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1261629)
Probably, but I admire Jon for being brave and giving us a faster song. I mean, a studio album will last, so he has to think about giving the best he can on the record, because honestly, it doesn't matter anymore live things, however, the album can show his best and hide his lacks. WWWU and Walls were proof of that. I hope that in this new album, at least, John Shanks does some magic to show us the best that Jon can show.

I couldn't agree with you more Rolo. Studio album will last longer than a tour.

JoviForever 02-19-2020 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musiccritic101 (Post 1261633)
I kinda think Jon has just been pumping out albums just for the sake of it,for me it all started with the What About Now album,I feel like Jon just randomly writes songs and records them and throws them together and calls it an album and we end up with songs that sound unfinished or over-proccessed or lyrics that sound mediocre.

I agree - it’s just a means to an end. Richie may have gone off the rails and made some wrong decisions over the years but I always felt from him that music is a passion. You don’t get that from Jon.☹️

semigoodlooking 02-19-2020 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musiccritic101 (Post 1261633)
I kinda think Jon has just been pumping out albums just for the sake of it,for me it all started with the What About Now album,I feel like Jon just randomly writes songs and records them and throws them together and calls it an album and we end up with songs that sound unfinished or over-proccessed or lyrics that sound mediocre.

I agree but think it started earlier than WAN. The Circle showed signs of what was to come and we could probably go as far back as Crush to see the beginnings of what was to come.

steel_horse75 02-19-2020 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1261631)
I'm really struggling here... It's not a matter of liking or hating the song... I'll wait to hear the entire thing to make that decision...

What I can judge is the production and the first verse which is nothing but pure shit. I'm sure listening to These Days today definitely didn't help things however this is just "another one of those songs"...

It's We Don't Run, meets Knockout, meets Beautiful World, meets The More Things Change, meets Walls...

I don't mind these songs as fillers, bonus tracks, etc but this should not be leading the album...

Shanks and Jovi have zero chemistry. Even when I go back to HAND, when Jon still had some natural talent left in him, I still never dug Shanks production... Considering Jon spent 3 days in the studio (or a very limited time), I get why he still uses the guy but this is just terrible...

No substance, no depth, and zero emotion from Jon...

I think the vocals are done in one take and then they just do anything with them after that... Slow them down, speed them up, filter the tone, take about bad notes, change the pitch etc.

I just don't get it.



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Pretty much this. Let be honest this band shouldve called it a day years ago or changed its name to Jon Bon Jovi which it pretty much is.

Its not just Jovi - Pearl Jam have just released another track from their forthcoming album and all their die-hards are not impressed - said it sounds like it took them 5 minutes to write and that the albums are full of songs that will be forgotten after one listen.

Eveline 02-19-2020 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1261644)
Pretty much this. Let be honest this band shouldve called it a day years ago or changed its name to Jon Bon Jovi which it pretty much is.

Its not just Jovi - Pearl Jam have just released another track from their forthcoming album and all their die-hards are not impressed - said it sounds like it took them 5 minutes to write and that the albums are full of songs that will be forgotten after one listen.

True. When was the last time you listened to anything from THINFS? Those are not songs to remember and I'm afraid with songs like Limitless we're gonna repeat the whole cycle again. Many of us would forgive BJ the poor production when the lyrical content was of some quality. Now neither of them meet minimum standards. That's a shame, really.

jovifan93 02-19-2020 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eveline (Post 1261645)
True. When was the last time you listened to anything from THINFS? Those are not songs to remember and I'm afraid with songs like Limitless we're gonna repeat the whole cycle again. Many of us would forgive BJ the poor production when the lyrical content was of some quality. Now neither of them meet minimum standards. That's a shame, really.

That's true. Up to THINFS, there was always at least one good/great song on an album (if you're curious which I'd rank this high on WAN: Thick as thieves ;-)). While I enjoy a lot of songs on each record, they often lack that extra something special...

But I wouldn't go as far and say that Jon has had no passion for music for as long as The Circle or earlier. It clearly show in the passion he put in the live shows, at least up to 2010/2011, and sometimes even in 2013 when compared to today. He just seemed to care back then, whereas now it seems as though he doesn't.

Eveline 02-19-2020 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1261646)
That's true. Up to THINFS, there was always at least one good/great song on an album (if you're curious which I'd rank this high on WAN: Thick as thieves ;-)). While I enjoy a lot of songs on each record, they often lack that extra something special...

But I wouldn't go as far and say that Jon has had no passion for music for as long as The Circle or earlier. It clearly show in the passion he put in the live shows, at least up to 2010/2011, and sometimes even in 2013 when compared to today. He just seemed to care back then, whereas now it seems as though he doesn't.

Yeah, it might not be a popular opinion but there are songs on WAN I actually enjoy too:mrgreen: And I agree with the rest of your post. Even Jon himself admits he doesn't enjoy touring anymore, he's just 'good at it'. And I think it speaks volumes. It's become his job and in not a good way.

angelsambo 02-19-2020 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eveline (Post 1261645)
Many of us would forgive BJ the poor production...

i'm not one of them,
the production plays a key role how the album will sound(rock or pop)

Captain_jovi 02-19-2020 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesedays2014 (Post 1261634)
Best song since These Days isn’t it?

That vocal melody really gives it a different vibe 😹 (sorry)

I still disagree, the vocal pacing gives the song a different feel than what I expected. My point was more....if you're going into this going "it's going to suck it's going to suck it's going to suck it's going to suck it's going to suck" you're a) beating a dead horse and b) yeah, there's no hope for liking it, what's the point?

Eveline 02-19-2020 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelsambo (Post 1261648)
i'm not one of them,
the production plays a key role how the album will sound(rock or pop)

Well, you're still here so maybe it doesn't bother you that much. Quite a few fans noticed that BJ songs sound alike... and it's been like that for years now. There's nothing distinctive about them anymore.

rolo_tomachi 02-19-2020 04:10 PM

Ummm...

I changed my perception about what to expect from Bon Jovi. Everyone comes to decay, and Bon Jovi arrived here.

Now I receive the new albums as if it were material from the vaults, as something that is not so good, but shows a process.
Is like have more Unreleased songs. I prefer to believe that... and that is better than nothing.

james_d 02-19-2020 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eveline (Post 1261645)
True. When was the last time you listened to anything from THINFS? Those are not songs to remember and I'm afraid with songs like Limitless we're gonna repeat the whole cycle again. Many of us would forgive BJ the poor production when the lyrical content was of some quality. Now neither of them meet minimum standards. That's a shame, really.

To be honest I'm listening to THINFS now. Some songs I don't care for, but I still listen to it occasionally.


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