Given those audibles, gonna be a shame if they end it there.

I sense that may be the setlist for the tour, with 1 or 2 of that audible list added in each night

prayer was OK considering it was last.

Show ended.

I enjoyed the snippets I heard. I was quite late for the live stream....

Looking forward to more shows, tbh.

Haha, Jon actually hit the "YEAH yeah yeah" on Keep The Faith SHARP instead of flat! :D BOR was great, 120% or not... apart from the slight crack on the last "bed of NAAAILS".

Pretty Standard Show, jon struggled more than i?ve expected him to do.. :-( signs of it, no guitar on wanted, i?ll be there? or Born to follow...
it was okay, but i thought he was happy that this Show was over :-(

I thought he done OK - A few strains here and there.

What do you mean when you say no guitar on 3 songs?

Set list weren't bad but I just wish they would throw the odd rarity in for the die hards.

Since 2001, apart for 2006 and 2008, Japan has always boring setlist...

Jon never Plays guitar when he struggels with his vocals. today he hasn?t played his takamine on these 3 Songs Maybe more like he normaly does. on to Show nr. 2

Are you saying that Jon didn't play his acoustic during Wanted!? Has that happened before? Seeing him sing Wanted guitar-less would be weird....

yes he didn?t Play his acoustic on wanted, there for you, Born to follow...

Just flicked back on the livestream, WLOL and Lost Highway were both played and Jon was indeed guitarless on Wanted.

even Sleep was without guitar from Jon. this is Always a sign that his voice makes Problems

or maybe he is old, and not play guitar saves you energy???
it's more easy???
his guitar had a problem???
I could think in a million of possibilities...
we'll see tomorrow

Well this certainly could have been a hell of a lot worse. Hoping some of the audibles will replace songs like who says tomorrow

so no jon acoustic / electric guitar on:

Blood On Blood
Sleep When i?m Dead
Wanted
Born To Follow
I?ll Be There For You

wow I enjoyed the setlist! looking forward to watching the vids! :D

It was definitely above the expectations if we are comparing it to today's standards.

I'd definitely enjoy this show if I was there. Being behind the computed doesn't represent it because you are focusing on specific notes and waiting to see if he hits them or not.

His voice did seem a bit tired towards the end, but he still managed to hit some higher notes, and the voice overall was stronger that usually.

I think once his throat is in a better shape it will be even better in 2,3 shows.

I'm happy overall. And his outfits are very much refreshed and good!

I wish they hadn’t dropped HAND especially given WLOL and Who Says made the final set.

It was finally clear to me during this show that jon has some health issues...he gets so much tense trying to get out a decent amount of voice that he has to jump or do something just to relax his body, even if he's singing a slow (how slow it is nowadays omg) ballad like BOR. I'm really afraid something is going on with his body :( good effort however by all of them, it was an enjoyable show after all

I'm still laughing at the high note on KTF :D Jon tries to hit the C#5, but yells an uncontrolled D5 in its place - reminds me of that Wild In The Streets performance at Prudential 2007... remember how he butchered the "this is my HOAAAMETOOOAAAAN"? Can't find it on YT anymore.

Who'd of though Jon would go sharp on a high note in 2018 lol

Had to listen to the whole show (kid was home recovering from a stomach bug, bored as hell, and she caught me watching snippets while trying to work and/or block her voice) and didn't see anything that would compel me to watch anything more than a few decent one-off performances from this leg.

It's honestly as good or as bad as the handful of decent shows from the last 2 years. Vocals are not horrible but still too patchy to be listenable for 2+ hours, THINFS songs sound slow and boring, rest of the songs ranged from "decent for today's standards" to "oh gosh will this drag on forever?", Jon is glued to the mic 80% of the show (and sounds worse than when he moves).

Same old. The only change I noticed this time is that for some reason Phil's playing annoyed me. I don't usually pay lots of attention to him except to cringe when he butchers my favorite solos but he's either sounded off for a while or there was something up with the sound this time.

Kid said that she wouldn't want to go to a show (thankfully!!). Her final verdict was "it's OK but it's not very good". The fact that I had to sit through 90% of songs I don't want to hear live again in the comfort of my own living room and still wished I could skip them all says all that needs to be said.

Actually, I find it better if he skips the acoustic completely (as we have been demanding in 2013 IIRC ;-)), than if he plays it and then stops playing it in the middle of the song when he (thinks he) needs to concentrate in order to hit the notes. I wouldn't read too much into it in terms of his voice being in a bad shape or something, maybe he just realized it's easier only having to concentrate on singing as best as he can. After all, they already got two guitarists...

And the jumping that's been mentioned - he's been doing that for years, I think it's because he doesn't want to look all static, but maybe it's indeed to relax some muscles, who knows, but I wouldn't read too much into that either...

Raise Your Hands:

Wanted

Sorry, but I hear no improvement there at all. Wanted was awful even by some recent standards...

He struggled mightily towards the end, yes, but the beginning definitely was an improvement. Not enough for the whole song/show though :-( Will be interesting to hear how he sounds on tomorrow's show...

Better setlist than I was expecting, and Jon's voice and energy both seem to have improved slightly since the last show, though the voice is still not very good (though he sounded surprisingly good in some places, such as the adlibs at the end of Blood on Blood which I'm pretty sure he hasn't attempted since the LH tour). Not sure how I feel about Born to Follow opening the encore though, reminds me of when they opened the encore with BWC at some of the 2017 North American shows. Seeing as they had some great audibles, I wish they had've picked These Days or Dry County as the opener instead. I love that Amen and We Got it Going on were not played though, just wish the same would happen to Whole Lot of Boring-I mean Leavin' already. Here's hoping they make some decent changes to the set for tomorrow's show!

Hopefully JBJ keeps We Don't Run and forget We got it going on before Keep The Faith!!!! please >_<

I agree with this! And I hope Amen has been permanently dropped!

A little sad to see that Jon is back to being glued at his mic stand. During the spring shows in North America it was great to see that he really found back to being a front man and and working the stage. Maybe it's just me, but I'm really uncomfortable to watch those clips. I understand his singing voice is gone and can accept it, but Jon seems to suffer on stage and doesn't seem to enjoy himself at all. It's so obvious he knows his voice is shit.

And the question, why does he suddenly always brag about how great he sounds nowadays - as it's more than clear that he knows he doesn't?

Other than that one comment in the Facebook Q&A where he said "and I'm feeling great vocally", I don't recall him always talking about it.

That being said - I think that's about the level Jon can reach these days. It's been like that since his depression and whatever is holding him back, may it be physical or metal issues, seems to be permanent by now. It hasn't really changed since 2015 and it won't really change much for the reminder of their career. Sure it can vary by maybe 5 to 10 percent on a nightly basis, but that's just normal fluctuation. People thinking his range has suddenly improved etc because of the odd high note here and there need to realize that. He can do more as a frontman, the US tour this spring was way better in terms of that. But vocally, that's about what we'll get in the future.

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He said in the Stephen Colbert show last spring that "he's in really good shape vocally these days" and just a couple of weeks ago he said on some interview that he's "singing great". I think his standards are way below ours by now... maybe this really is a great level for him, considering the abysmal starting point? After all, he HAS improved a lot since 2015 (remember those Asian shows?).

EDIT: Plus, in the promotional text of the European tour next year (probably at least based on Jon's ideas) one of the key lines is "we're sounding better than ever"... yeah right :D

yeah, he said that last month on an interview for Australia
he said: "I'm in great health, I'm singing great!"
then they were talking about hit high notes
and JBJ said:
"Absolutely! Yeeeah!
It's hard work!" (with a big smile in his face)

Yeah, he has been bragging about that a lot, including "the new, better me" or something along those lines. I don't see how it's better, sorry. It's acceptable maybe, but most certainly not better than ever before.

And yeah, strange that he's not moving, though probably same cause and effect as to why he's not playing his acoustic. In an ideal world, I'd have him playing that, bouncing around the stage and hitting every note, but if I had to chose one of that, it'd probably be the latter, I don't know...

And considering his range: I don't think range is the problem (listen to the sing-alongs during Prayer, and the other aforementioned places). It's either breathing-related, psychological (godd*mn it, Jon, get rid of that hand-opening gesture after every semi-hard line you've just delivered as if you're life is depending on it) or whatever. The range is different in that his voice has lowered quite a bit so that he can't sing several notes as he's used to, but he obviously has (learned) technique to hit quite the high notes. And I do believe he's getting better at mixing the different techniques he's learned. Let's just hope it's sustainable and not getting worse every show...

What someone says in an interview and how he really feels might be two different things. If he feels more comfortable it might be enough for him to say so. That being said: it is hardly his fault that his voice isn't what it used to be
i dont know any band that has fans focused on the singer's voice that much. There are more factors leading to a good concert. I rather have somebody not torturing himself and sounding bad than having somebody being uncomfortable and hitting difficult notes. Jon is not on stage to please me, As long as they are putting in some effort, I am good!

Call me crazy, but I think Jon may have had a vocal cord surgery around early 2016 that simply didn't turn out too well. He still had his tone and (low/mid-range) pitch control in 2014-15, wasn't cracking nearly as much as nowadays, and so on. Nowadays his ability to stay in tune and follow the melodies has declined so much that at times it's hard to believe he once was a great singer. He doesn't only struggle with the high notes (which actually seem easier for him than the lower ones, as hard as it is to understand), but his whole voice has become hoarse, monotonous and toneless. It simply doesn't resonate anymore.

Jon no longer sounds like himself. Hell, he can't even shout while speaking anymore.

That was truly horrendous. A shambles.

Jon sounds terrible. I hate the way Phil plays the solo.


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