Originally Posted by Captmorgs (Post 1247974)

This place is so funny. Reactions ranging from ?Jon sounded decent for today?s standards, stronger than the last leg? to ?patchy, weak, terrible?. And everything in between. [emoji3]

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Originally Posted by faith1985 (Post 1247970)

What someone says in an interview and how he really feels might be two different things. If he feels more comfortable it might be enough for him to say so. That being said: it is hardly his fault that his voice isn't what it used to be
i dont know any band that has fans focused on the singer's voice that much. There are more factors leading to a good concert. I rather have somebody not torturing himself and sounding bad than having somebody being uncomfortable and hitting difficult notes.

Originally Posted by faith1985 (Post 1247970)

Jon is not on stage to please me, As long as they are putting in some effort, I am good!

Originally Posted by Jeeper (Post 1247975)

I honestly cannot fathom how anyone with working ears could think Wanted sounded anything other than horrific.


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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1247976)

The problem here is that this was what made Bon Jovi special. Jon, at every point of his career, pushed himself to the absolute vocal limit to make the songs special. That's backfiring now. But what made me (and I guess many others) a fan was that Jon could deliver a song like rarely any other live. Bar some masterpieces, most songs of the band were solid to good in terms of the pure songwriting/songstructure. What made them special was that Jon could sing them in a way you even believed the most cheesy lines in there.



And, as someone pointed out, I am more concerned about him being unable to follow melody lines. He is 56, if he can't hit the very high notes, that's okay. But Who Says is a prime example of how he seems to go through hell to sing a mid-range melody. That's concerning me.







Well I guess than we have two different views here. Of course his voice is not all - in Munich 2013 it wasn't too great but the effort was fantastic. But if I pay something between 100 and 200 bucks for a show - of course I want to be pleased by the frontman. As I said - vocals are definitely not all, but I wan to feel comfortable and enjoy the music. I don't pay it so that I can go home saying "It didn't please me at all, but Jon was up there and smiling, so he was comfortable and I am good". Though some fans probably really see it that way.:D

Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1247977)

My ears are working perfectly, thanks for asking! ;-) And, as I admitted, not the whole song was good, parts of it maybe even bad. But take the first verses for example - it's been a long time that he didn't whisper his way through it, especially when switching techniques in the "on a steel horse I ride" line. This seemed much more fluent, and with much more energy/tone.



Yes, it did worsen during the song (or actually one or two songs before Wanted), but that was near the end of the show. Which leads me to hope he's not doing more damage to himself by pushing so hard, but that's another story...

Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1247965)

And the question, why does he suddenly always brag about how great he sounds nowadays - as it's more than clear that he knows he doesn't?

Originally Posted by Jeeper (Post 1247972)

That was truly horrendous. A shambles.

Jon sounds terrible. I hate the way Phil plays the solo.


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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1247983)

This is the song where Richie is missed the most.


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Originally Posted by Captmorgs (Post 1247974)

This place is so funny. Reactions ranging from ?Jon sounded decent for today?s standards, stronger than the last leg? to ?patchy, weak, terrible?. And everything in between. [emoji3]

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Originally Posted by james_d (Post 1247987)

Bon Jovi Live In Tokyo 2018 - YouTube

YouTube link to the full performance if the Facebook link stops working. One thing I notice watching the whole show back is that there are too many songs I don't really care about. Also, when listening live I could guess a fair amount of the songs about to be played, at least in the middle of the set. I certainly enjoyed it, but hope for more tomorrow and in Australia.

Originally Posted by james_d (Post 1247985)

I kinda think they should drop Wanted, it's one of their harder songs to sing and was Richie's song so doesn't really fit anymore

Originally Posted by rokenrola (Post 1247988)

Ive watched the whole show and it is good,specially for the first show. Band sound tight,great playing,Jon has ups and downs but it is listenable,from 1 to 10 I give 7.5

Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1247994)

7.5?? Seriously...! It's 2.5 at best from me I'm afraid...

Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1247976)

The problem here is that this was what made Bon Jovi special. Jon, at every point of his career, pushed himself to the absolute vocal limit to make the songs special. That's backfiring now. But what made me (and I guess many others) a fan was that Jon could deliver a song like rarely any other live. Bar some masterpieces, most songs of the band were solid to good in terms of the pure songwriting/songstructure. What made them special was that Jon could sing them in a way you even believed the most cheesy lines in there.

And, as someone pointed out, I am more concerned about him being unable to follow melody lines. He is 56, if he can't hit the very high notes, that's okay. But Who Says is a prime example of how he seems to go through hell to sing a mid-range melody. That's concerning me.



Well I guess than we have two different views here. Of course his voice is not all - in Munich 2013 it wasn't too great but the effort was fantastic. But if I pay something between 100 and 200 bucks for a show - of course I want to be pleased by the frontman. As I said - vocals are definitely not all, but I wan to feel comfortable and enjoy the music. I don't pay it so that I can go home saying "It didn't please me at all, but Jon was up there and smiling, so he was comfortable and I am good". Though some fans probably really see it that way.:D

Originally Posted by james_d (Post 1247995)

I'm assuming his 7.5 is in light of context surrounding the band etc. I refuse to believe he views this show as 7.5 within the history of all band performances.

Originally Posted by rokenrola (Post 1247998)

This 7.5 is for band today,it is not 7.5 in 1995,I dont compare their shows today with previous tours. I look at them today and what is good and what is bad.

Originally Posted by Jeeper (Post 1247981)

I honestly think he sounded horrific. To my ears he was almost whispering parts and the way he sings RIDE further emphasises how shot his voice is.


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Originally Posted by Jayster (Post 1248000)

Not sure if someone has already mentioned, but no We Got It Going On.... That's been a staple on the set for over a decade.

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1247945)

or maybe he is old, and not play guitar saves you energy???
it's more easy???
his guitar had a problem???
I could think in a million of possibilities...
we'll see tomorrow