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The beginning of the show was all wrong, extremely meh (the only shallow good thing from the beginning was JBJ’s vest), I didn’t like it until Have A Nice Day which was like a little warm-up, to me the show started with These Days!!! it was simply awesome! there were a little echo on this one, there were a lot of good moments/songs... definitely heard Prayer SWW era playback there... and about solos to me it’s almost like they don’t exist. I had an awesome time, but I guess that’s me.
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Hey Jon! Stop wasting ink printing Dry County as an audible if you're never gonna ****ing play it!
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I'll be there for you is starting to work again live. Looks like Jon's starting to enjoy playing this one again. Phil looks and sounds more comfortable. How can Shanks create such great solos in the studio with feel and complexity "fingerprints" and be completely devoid of all of that whenever he plays a lead live?? Weird....
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They did not sound like a cover band in Wembley and it was not forced there. This show wasn't great but it had its moments. Phil was way more recognizable at Wembley than last night. The beginning was not good but it did got better for me. |
It's maybe starting to look like the band 'peaked' in UK and that break has slowed the momentum. Again, the shows don't look bad but I think on the UK leg we got the better shows and performances and anything else less than that now is noticeable.
When I say 'peaked', I obviously mean, the better shows. I don't mean the band were better than ever. Sent from my CLT-L09 using Tapatalk |
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Saw some videos in YT, JBJ sounded worse than in DüsseldorF.
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I think you are blowing it out of proportion. I have seen better, but the Berlin show was worse for me and so was the first night at the O2. The band is still able to put on a very good concert which Wembley, among others, was. Didn't people here were praising the Holland show, Dublin, Wembley? It wasn't magical but it wasn't like seeing a tribute band either.
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I'm glad I had a great time (despite going through very difficult times [emoji53]). I took my brother, who went to his first rock concert ever. He is into techno. He said he enjoyed it, he was fascinated with the people.
Maybe I'm getting old, or it's been a really long time since I saw the band, or I had no expectations but I was surprised and satisfied. The atmosphere was energetic. I don't have any chance to see such huge crowds, moreover so dedicated to have good fun and enjoy the show. Even the flow of the show was ok for me. The vocals got drowned in the crowd. I really didn't pay attention to any flaws. That's what will always make live shows so unique. When you build a holiday around it, do bit of sightseeing but mainly have a great time with other people. I had one big wish - Roller Coaster and it got played [emoji846] for some reasons I wanted I'll Be There For You to get played rather than Always. I also hoped for something else than dreadful Amen and got These Days. I still don't need LH, Who Says or Captain Crash (the only song my brother sat down for beacuse it was boring). My brother knows BJ music because I tormented him with it when shared a room as kids. Therefore he has some favourites. His number one is King Of The Mountain [emoji16] then If I Was Your Mother, Say It Isn't So, Everyday and Last Cigarette. [emoji16][emoji16] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
It was great catching up again, even if it only was for a short amount of time!
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Genuinely shocked at this set list and Düsseldorf tbf. Wasn’t there but FFS come on this is Munich! Maybe in the past we were spoiled, I don’t know but compare this to the German sets from 06 and 08. Unless things massively change I won’t be travelling for them again. For a man who brags about a 36 year career and doesn’t sing much more than 30 songs in a European tour is very very poor. No excuses, if you can sing ITA you can can pretty much sing anything.
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Strange but I thought the band were solid, it was not a boring show and they sounded good, they clearly have good memories of playing the stadium and that seemed to hype them up. Some set lists changes from Düsseldorf and I initially thought rollercoaster was gonna hit a bum note with some silence around me in the circle but they got going. These days early was good, David on ITA though his mike was to low initially was good. Now for a band that say they love Munich I don’t think they showed it with set list changes or additional songs. 22 songs is nowadays the norm. The arena tours on the US legs got that bar a couple and while the stadium tours used to get more it’s seems that the band can’t / don’t want to play more than that. Both Dublin got shows got more and they were better for it.
I have also missed the covers on this tour, adding snippets into a couple songs was fun. Possibly glad I have not invested in more gigs this year, the lack of set list changes after 4 European shows means this is more of a greatest hits tour than THINFS. However I look forward to seeing them in the US after a new album and I think it’s the time to catch songs from it rather than waiting on another European tour |
I was at the Munich show as well and would mostly agree with Kevs. I had a really great time. And concerning the relatively short show, I just think it's because Jon was done at that point. in fact, I think the combo Keep the Faith/These Days killed his voice after a quite good start (for 2019 standards). Vocally, IBTFY and Prayer were shambles... Still it really seemed to me that the band were enjoying themselves, and if it weren't for the voice situation (or maybe Tico, even though I think he did a great job).
Rollercoaster was surprisingly well received by the crowd where I was. I'm glad we got it instead of WLOL. Also I was very happy to get WDR and These Days (even though that one sounded quite terrific). On the other hand, I could have done without Who Says and Captain Crash, but the people around me seemed to have enjoyed that very much, so fair enough. Yes, the lack of rarities was disapppointing. But I guess that's as much as we will get from now on. However, I'm very much looking forward to seeing the band again when the new Album comes out. But I'm 99,9% sure that I won't be spending money to go to multiple shows, especially considering how expensive the tickets have become. PS: to my surprise, Shanks didn't bother me. I think he's done quite well (disclaimer: I was on the other side of the stage). But I didn't really see the point in having Everett, except of course his backing vocals... But come on, bongos and percussion? Gesendet von meinem LM-Q610.FGN mit Tapatalk |
Btw, I have seen some reviews of the show, and they were generally positive. The only negative thing was Jon's voice, but more in a sense of "his voice is a little bit week when he uses a higher range". And that the audience sang louder than the band themselves :D
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For a more complete image, here are some more reviews: https://www.abendzeitung-muenchen.de...c57235f1c.html https://www.muenchen.de/aktuell/2019...-muenchen.html I don't want anyone to believe that it was a good show if they think it wasn't. But to say it was a complete joke wouldn't do it justice. Gesendet von meinem LM-Q610.FGN mit Tapatalk |
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Es ist bereits das sechste Mal, dass Bon Jovi im Olympiastadion zu Gast sind, zuletzt vor sechs Jahren. Natürlich fehlen die Klassiker auch diesmal nicht. „Dead or Alive“, „Bad Medicine“, „Livin’ on a Prayer“ - alle kommen dran in den knapp zweieinhalb Stunden. Frontmann und Namensgeber Jon hat dabei sichtlich Spaß an der Rückkehr nach München. Er bläst Küsschen in die Menge, zwinkert seinen Edelfans in der ersten Reihe zu und schunkelt schattenboxend über die Bühne, wenn er nicht das Publikum zur Bewegung animiert. Wenn das mal keinen Muskelkater gibt. Die Klassiker wurden ausgepackt, Jon hatte Spaß und schunkelt über die Bühne? Das könnte so auch beim Ballermann passiert sein. Die Stimmung war super, Jon nicht und die Band war schlechter und zurückhaltender als in London. |
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Du kannst dich gerne weiterhin mit den sprachlichen Feinheiten dieses poetischen Meisterwerks beschäftigen. Aber auf eine komplette und detaillierte Textexegese kann ich hier gut verzichten, dafür ist das hier einfach nicht wichtig genug. Deshalb sag ich einfach mal: das ist deine Meinung, und das ist meine. Und die lasse ich mir auch nicht madig machen oder verbieten. Weder wenn es um dss Konzert geht noch um den TZ-Artikel. Anyways, I don't know why this change to German was necessary. No benefit at all for the non-German-speaking users here. Gesendet von meinem LM-Q610.FGN mit Tapatalk |
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Again, if you liked the show, good for you! I met a woman at the bus station and we decided to rock out together at the show. The best part of the show for me was probably seeing how much she enjoyed it. She just waned to hear the songs and have fun. So who am i to judge others if they enjoy something. As I said, it wasn't all bad but just not up to the standards I was hoping for. |
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It was! As I said earlier, the people around you also make the show. I'm so happy I went. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Compared to all 7 BJ shows in munich it was the worst:
No spontaneity. Every word from Jon's mouth is planned (the beginning of Bad Name equals note by note and word for word, for example, the "Hall of Fame" appearance). The first time at a BJ concert (I’ve been) no built-in cover in a BJ song (Stones, Scorpions, etc). No acoustic part. No transition between the songs, with the first songs even the light went out between the songs. And then those songs like Wanted or I'll be there for you who are simply worlds worse without Richie. Finally Jons voice... Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk |
Back from Munich. Had a great time! Yes, Jon's vocal problems are listenable being there in person, and yes, sometimes I felt really bad for him. But then again, there were songs where he really surprised me. And to me, it seemed that Jon genuinely enjoyed being there and had fun during the night (we did our best to keep him happy and seemed to have succeeded ;-)).
Was it the best show ever? By no means. But the set flowed very well, and judging from the audience and energy of Jon and the band, it was up there in my top 5-10 shows. If you try to just enjoy it for what it is, you can have a really great time, and if this was the last time seeing my favorite band, I won't regret it. |
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Er bläst Küsschen in die Menge, zwinkert seinen Edelfans in der ersten Reihe zu und schunkelt schattenboxend über die Bühne, wenn er nicht das Publikum zur Bewegung animiert. Wenn das mal keinen Muskelkater gibt He is blowing kisses into the crowd, he is winking at his elite fans in the first row and is swaying shadow-boxing around the stage, when he does not animate the crowd to move - if that does not give you sore muscles that does sound like a typical tabloid joke to me. And, btw I did not say the concert was a joke. As you said, it is a free country and fortunately, we are all allowed to have different opinions about the same things. I know I sound like a broken record but this compared to wembley was like seeing different band (If you go to the Wembley thread, you see that I thought Wembley was quite amazing.) In the end, discussing these things is pretty pointless. everybody is different and has different perceptions. You see what you want to see and what you are capable of. bonjovi90 did not enjoy the show that much either, same goes for many other people here. |
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Yes, of course that's all tabloid junk, but it's not diminishing the concert in my opinion. Yes, it doesn't focus on the music, but more on what Jon does, but it's always been that way with BJ (though it used to be more about Jon's hair and looks in general ;-)) |
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The show they put on is awesome. Even if it is all planned and everything during the songs is planned, they still put on a great show. The band sounds super tight and I haven't seen Jon in a better mood ever. He works the stage, he interacts with the crowd and at the end of the night he is drained. I was thinking most press/newspapers would be very critical / synical about Bon Jovi in 2019. I thougth the reviews would get 1 or 2 stars but they are getting 4 and 5 star reviews and I can understand why. I go and see a lot of bands. I've seen Bon Jovi over 35 times between 1993 and today and I can honestly say that the show's I've seen this tour are still really really good. I agree on the vocal part and clearly the setlist are shorter then before ( 22 songs mostly) as opposed to 25 ( and ocasionally 27 /28 ). But, I prefere a band that knows it's limits - more ain't always better. Jon probably knows he can go at 100% for 22 songs and not more. And I agree he does not sound perfect but he clearly gives it a 100% and THAT, I like. The show might be standard, vanilla, routine, but what they do comes close to perfection and Jon is clearly doing what he does best. He's being a great frontman. I can imagine his vocal coach or whatever coach is advising him to not go over certain limits if he wants to be able to continu his career for a few more years. And no, I am not the kind of fan who thinks all the band does is fantastic. I have been bitching on many things, but when I see the band live, I still get amazed. The only competition they have is their own past. |
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