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Zakatar 07-04-2019 08:47 AM

The Official July 10 Letzigrund, Zürich, Switzerland Thread
 
Setlists, Predictions, Videos, Disappointments, Complaints...

The last time the band played in Zürich was on July 14, 2011, during The Circle Tour. The setlist was as follows:

01. Captain Crash & the Beauty Queen From Mars
02. You Give Love a Bad Name
03. Born to Be My Baby
04. We Weren't Born to Follow
05. Lost Highway
06. Whole Lot of Leavin'
07. It's My Life
08. We Got it Going on
09. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. Bad Medicine [w/ Snippet of Oh, Pretty Woman]
11. Lay Your Hands on Me [Richie Vox]
12. (You Want to) Make a Memory
13. Bed of Roses
14. I'll Be There For You
15. Who Says You Can't Go Home
16. No Apologies
17. Work For the Working Man
18. Have a Nice Day
19. Keep the Faith
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20. Superman Tonight
21. Wanted Dead or Alive
22. Love's the Only Rule
23. Livin' on a Prayer


2019 Setlist:

01. This House is Not For Sale
02. Raise Your Hands
03. You Give Love a Bad Name
04. Born to Be My Baby
05. Whole Lot of Leavin'
06. Lost Highway
07. Runaway
08. We Weren't Born to Follow
09. Have a Nice Day
10. Keep the Faith
11. Roller Coaster
12. Captain Crash & the Beauty Queen From Mars
13. It's My Life
14. We Don't Run
15. Wanted Dead or Alive
16. Lay Your Hands on Me
17. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
18. Bad Medicine
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19. I'll Be There For You
20. Livin' on a Prayer

Jonty 07-08-2019 01:09 AM

So Zurich is Switzerland, trying to work out what country my tshirt from the Wembley gig thinks Zurich is in!

efpg0708 07-08-2019 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zakatar (Post 1256574)
Setlists, Predictions, Videos, Disappointments, Complaints...

The last time the band played in Zürich was on July 14, 2011, during The Circle Tour. The setlist was as follows:

01. Captain Crash & the Beauty Queen From Mars
02. You Give Love a Bad Name
03. Born to Be My Baby
04. We Weren't Born to Follow
05. Lost Highway
06. Whole Lot of Leavin'
07. It's My Life
08. We Got it Going on
09. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
10. Bad Medicine [w/ Snippet of Oh, Pretty Woman]
11. Lay Your Hands on Me [Richie Vox]
12. (You Want to) Make a Memory
13. Bed of Roses
14. I'll Be There For You
15. Who Says You Can't Go Home
16. No Apologies
17. Work For the Working Man
18. Have a Nice Day
19. Keep the Faith
--------------------------------------------
20. Superman Tonight
21. Wanted Dead or Alive
22. Love's the Only Rule
23. Livin' on a Prayer


2019 Setlist: TBA

This was a very meh concert as well. Not as bad as Dusseldorf, but Jon was still weak vocally and I walked out very disappointed as well.

Dave88 07-08-2019 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonty (Post 1256808)
So Zurich is Switzerland, trying to work out what country my tshirt from the Wembley gig thinks Zurich is in!

Judging by the amount of italians travelling to this show it will look more Italy than Switzerland on Wednesday.

LeaJovi 07-10-2019 03:59 PM

Dry county will be an unplayed audible tonight.

Dave88 07-10-2019 04:30 PM

I've just checked in at the hotel, will leave for the stadium in a few minutes.

Hoping for a decent setlist (not that I really believe in this) and a better crowd than Wembley.

steel_horse75 07-10-2019 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave88 (Post 1256901)
I've just checked in at the hotel, will leave for the stadium in a few minutes.

Hoping for a decent setlist (not that I really believe in this) and a better crowd than Wembley.

The Wembley Crowd was excellent.

YOVANAfromPeru 07-10-2019 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1256909)
The Wembley Crowd was excellent.

I think Zurich is the show where the italians fan club are going...

Thierry 07-10-2019 09:30 PM

01. Thinfs
02. Raise your hands

Thierry 07-10-2019 09:35 PM

03. Bad Name

DavetheGodofKeys 07-10-2019 10:12 PM

Let me guess, last two songs will be :
Always/IBTFY and Prayer.

steel_horse75 07-10-2019 10:15 PM

Looks rammed

https://twitter.com/joviupdates/stat...050019329?s=21


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DavetheGodofKeys 07-10-2019 11:09 PM

Any updates?

gabriele 07-10-2019 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavetheGodofKeys (Post 1256925)
Any updates?

Probably the worst concert of the Tour
No ballad in the Middle
Encore be there e prayer


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DavetheGodofKeys 07-10-2019 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabriele (Post 1256926)
Probably the worst concert of the Tour
No ballad in the Middle
Encore be there e prayer


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If true, I called what they'll play in the encore. Having said that, it's not very hard to figure out the set these days.

YOVANAfromPeru 07-11-2019 12:18 AM

I don't like this setlist, at all

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_JKdvKUIAAA4XG.jpg

Eveline 07-11-2019 12:19 AM

Me neither, pretty disappointing. Hopefully we'll get something else in Warsaw on Friday :rolleyes:

steel_horse75 07-11-2019 12:25 AM

Why play a stadium if you’re only playing 20 songs?


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Xavi 07-11-2019 12:40 AM

Here we got the consequences of the disaster the Madrid show was.
Jon suffered a lot in Amen.He began late to sing it and the band had to stop the song and begin again.Then he entered to the verse early and the band saved the song.
In bed of roses he was almost dying to sing the song so he didnt walk through the catwalk and didnt dance with a girl,only gluedto the mic.
So today,no Amen,no Roses.
If he dont recover his voice to the preMadrid level, I dont know if he will be able to finish the tour

daveyshaker 07-11-2019 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1256940)
In bed of roses he was almost dying to sing the song so he didnt walk through the catwalk and didnt dance with a girl,only gluedto the mic.

I'm guessing (as are you) that the reason he stayed at the mic during bed of Roses was to read the words as he sang in Spanish!

Maybe wait until people at the show comment before we confirm the band are over (for the 3rd time this tour) and see what they thought?

Dave88 07-11-2019 01:27 AM

Not. Worth. Anymore.

2 hours 5 min show. For the first time ever I was bored during a Bon Jovi show. Could call every song, every banter, every move from Jon.

There was a coreography during Follow and Wanted organized by the italian fans (the US flag, reminiscing of the Udine 2011 show); Jon acknowledged it but that's it, it didn't change anything in him.

He skipped many song choruses and overall didnt interact that much.

No Amen, no Bed of Roses, no Blood on Blood. Roller Coaster was played. If you're interested in the full shitty setlist is up on setlist.fm.

Xavi 07-11-2019 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daveyshaker (Post 1256941)
I'm guessing (as are you) that the reason he stayed at the mic during bed of Roses was to read the words as he sang in Spanish!

Maybe wait until people at the show comment before we confirm the band are over (for the 3rd time this tour) and see what they thought?

Yes,sure......😂

Tictoc 07-11-2019 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1256940)
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So today,no Amen,no Roses.

No Swiss cheese.

efpg0708 07-11-2019 04:34 AM

It’s becoming very clear that Jon’s voice can’t handle any more tours. He “peaks” at one or two shows, only to go downhill afterwards. That’s sad.

liljovi93 07-11-2019 07:29 AM

I said it the other day but Jon 'peaked' during the UK shows. Something changed in him and it made the shows enjoyable and most reviews were good. I'm seeing more negative ones from the later European shows than the early.

Set lists are predictable and are getting shorter and shorter. I said that I didn't want to judge videos anymore from YouTube or Instagram etc because JBJ did sound good at the shows I went too but it was like he has gone backwards again listening to some last night.

I'd even say he's not moving as much now as he did in UK too.

Imagine they done a proper tour. Regular shows etc... They'd have all been postponed within a few weeks.

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efpg0708 07-11-2019 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1256948)
I said it the other day but Jon 'peaked' during the UK shows. Something changed in him and it made the shows enjoyable and most reviews were good. I'm seeing more negative ones from the later European shows than the early.

Set lists are predictable and are getting shorter and shorter. I said that I didn't want to judge videos anymore from YouTube or Instagram etc because JBJ did sound good at the shows I went too but it was like he has gone backwards again listening to some last night.

I'd even say he's not moving as much now as he did in UK too.

Imagine they done a proper tour. Regular shows etc... They'd have all been postponed within a few weeks.

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I remember at Rock in Rio 2017 when Jon pulled out a great performance, even though his vocals were very poor. I felt that he was pushing at 120%, and indeed he was. He could barely talk in the end. That’s not sustainable anymore for him. It seems that he’s just trying to survive the shows that are left now.

DavetheGodofKeys 07-11-2019 09:14 AM

Damn, the setlist is even more vanilla the Munich one. Looks like Jon peaked for a few shows, and that's it.

prayer_84 07-11-2019 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavetheGodofKeys (Post 1256950)
Damn, the setlist is even more vanilla the Munich one. Looks like Jon peaked for a few shows, and that's it.


True that. They hit rock bottom with this one and if Jon intends to give us the same set in Romania, he may bother to come but he'll leave thousands of fans disappointed.

jovifan93 07-11-2019 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1256932)
I don't like this setlist, at all

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_JKdvKUIAAA4XG.jpg

Shitty set list, but nice girl holding it ;-)

BJFan99 07-11-2019 10:44 AM

So... anybody surprised?

prayer_84 07-11-2019 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BJFan99 (Post 1256954)
So... anybody surprised?

Yes, I am surprised. And pissed off, as well. The Moscow set wasn't great but the one from Zurich could not have been worse. Or it could get even worse, if Jon dropped the last monster ballad still remaining in the set (I'll be There for You). Now THAT would be a nightmare to remember.

Thierry 07-11-2019 11:24 AM

I saw some videos and I’m far from impressed. The band sounds great as they always do but they have a singer that isn’t able to sing in tune anymore. It’s a train wreck. JBJ is killing his legacy right now.

faith1985 07-11-2019 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thierry (Post 1256956)
I saw some videos and I’m far from impressed. The band sounds great as they always do but they have a singer that isn’t able to sing in tune anymore. It’s a train wreck. JBJ is killing his legacy right now.

You think that this band is sounding great?With someone like Shanks they cannot sound great. Sure, Phil X is pretty good but in Munich I did not see anything that stuck.

Xavi 07-11-2019 12:59 PM

I also think that the band sounds great.

liljovi93 07-11-2019 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1256959)
I also think that the band sounds great.

So do I. Apart from when he does a lead solo, I don't mind Shanks at all. Does he deserve to be on stage? Not at all. Did it ruin the show or make me think the band don't sound good because he was there? Again, not at all.

I'm not a fan of Shanks at all. I don't think he's been good for the band as a producer at all BUT I wasn't that bothered by him at the shows.

What's bad about these shows is the set lists and how it seems like Jon's vocals have taken a dive again. A lot of people were saying the break after Coventry would be good for him but I think he had momentum and was singing better than he has for a couple of years.

It's like we've gone back to 2017 again lately and it's a shame because I had hope that we was 'slowly' seeing some aspects of Jon/the band back.

I didn't even follow last night's show and I usually do updates on twitter but it's pointless.

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LeaJovi 07-11-2019 03:24 PM

Was Dry County an audible? Man I fear for this tour if it's not there.

YOVANAfromPeru 07-11-2019 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeaJovi (Post 1256961)
Was Dry County an audible? Man I fear for this tour if it's not there.

Audibles:
Always
Saturday Night
Blood On Blood

DavetheGodofKeys 07-11-2019 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1256962)
Audibles:
Always
Saturday Night
Blood On Blood

At least the last two should be live staples if he still had a half decent voice to work with.

jovifan93 07-11-2019 04:31 PM

I don't think the break killed momentum, I think he overdid it in Düsseldorf and Munich, because it went steeply downhill after/during those two shows. Düsseldorf was almost stellar judging by the last 3 years, Munich was ok, and in Madrid, it started to get worse...

faith1985 07-11-2019 04:54 PM

This is great


This is good, not great:


Shanks did not bother me in Munich but in Wembley. I turned around and we were all like: WHAT is he doing?

The band was way better in Wembley but you cannot say that this band is great compared to the standards they achieved in the past


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