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Faceman 09-23-2021 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1275579)
Have you all seen what Springsteen has just announced?
He will release the Legendary 1979 No Nukes Concerts on 2 CDs with DVD,2 CDs with Blue Ray or 2 LPs formats.
Why Bon Jovi cant do this things?

Just guessing but I have the feeling that to Bruce it isn't important if he makes a million more or less. He's probably fine if those kind of releases break even. Like you already pointed out, he cares for his fans and his music. Jon doesn't.

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Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1275579)
I remember when someone asked Matt for a DVD release from Hammersmith Odeon on twitter and he laughed at the face of that fan,like saying that no one is interestee on DVDs or BlueRays anymore...

My guess would be that Matt has absolutely no clue at all what Hammersmith even is.

Xavi 09-23-2021 09:10 PM

So,I was right...
The second email is a discount to the Runaway tours trip
Pathetic....but funny this time isnt selling well

steel_horse75 09-24-2021 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1275583)
So,I was right...
The second email is a discount to the Runaway tours trip
Pathetic....but funny this time isnt selling well


Loads of people have lost jobs and been on furlough in last 18 months so what does Jon do…announce a runaway tour where it would cost a couple nearly $5k to go. He’s so out of touch with reality.

Work for the working man indeed.


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steel_horse75 09-24-2021 09:40 AM

New Fan Club Package Updates
 
Re @xavi - it’s 30 years next year of Keep The Faith.
Probably their most important album in terms of how music had changed, would they survive grunge, sales started slowly and then it went onto sell millions and they become massive again.
The KTF tour was amazing.

We will get anything special? Nope. Too much effort.
Probably get a collection of Bergman photos with Jon watching them drinking Hamptons.

Was 33 years of NJ this year. Did Jon acknowledge it? Ok it’s not a significant number but it’s one of their best.


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Xavi 09-24-2021 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1275593)
Re @xavi - it’s 30 years next year of Keep The Faith.
Probably their most important album in terms of how music had changed, would they survive grunge, sales started slowly and then it went onto sell millions and they become massive again.
The KTF tour was amazing.

We will get anything special? Nope. Too much effort.
Probably get a collection of Bergman photos with Jon watching them drinking Hamptons.

Was 33 years of NJ this year. Did Jon acknowledge it? Ok it’s not a significant number but it’s one of their best.


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We will get a remastered hd video of In These Arms on youtube...
And Jon will ask us for more money on a Runaway tours trip,a cruise,a renewal subscription of the DB Expe,sorry,the JBJ Experience
Money,money,give me more money!!

Peter_Nik 09-24-2021 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1275579)
Have you all seen what Springsteen has just announced?
He will release the Legendary 1979 No Nukes Concerts on 2 CDs with DVD,2 CDs with Blue Ray or 2 LPs formats.
Why Bon Jovi cant do this things?
I remember when someone asked Matt for a DVD release from Hammersmith Odeon on twitter and he laughed at the face of that fan,like saying that no one is interestee on DVDs or BlueRays anymore...
The fact is that Bruce is care of his music and his fans and Bon Jovi is not focus in his music anymore but in recipes,wine glasses,aprons and David Bergman videos.
I cant stand anymore Jon and his way of managing Bon Jovi co.
Jon can stand with all of those middle age american housewifes and with Jerry..those are his public nowadays.
I cant listen to a single note from Bon Jovi songs nowadays,I just get instantly in a bad mood!

I have the exact same feelings... I'm starting thinking that I'll sell all my BJ collection. 21 years of collecting everything about this band because i believed that JBJ is a great songwriter with a heart on the right place and now I know I was wrong. He's just a pathetic business man who has a need in his 59 years old to steal money from his own naive fans. Just pathetic and now I have a really different opinion on this man...

Thinny 09-24-2021 04:14 PM

Jon has always been business man, certainly since the 90's, but he's always been clever about it, maybe he was getting good advice and now he isn't. I don't know. But certainly a lot of the decisions the orginisation have made recently are dubious at best. It really does feel like he just doesn't care any more and wants to make as much money as he can while he still can, with the least amount of effort possible.

Eveline 09-24-2021 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinny (Post 1275599)
Jon has always been business man, certainly since the 90's, but he's always been clever about it, maybe he was getting good advice and now he isn't. I don't know. But certainly a lot of the decisions the orginisation have made recently are dubious at best. It really does feel like he just doesn't care any more and wants to make as much money as he can while he still can, with the least amount of effort possible.

My thoughts exactly :/

Captain_jovi 09-24-2021 06:28 PM

I think there is zero difference in how Jon is now versus how he was in the 90's as a person. The difference is the bandcamp and third party vendors setting all this stuff up. It's being done cheaply to the lowest common denominator of fans. It's not like Jon was ever in the mail room sending this stuff out and coming up with cool ideas. He did the music, the management made sure it looked good. You lose the label, you lose funding, you go for the easy sale. JMO.

Thinny 09-24-2021 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1275609)
I think there is zero difference in how Jon is now versus how he was in the 90's as a person. The difference is the bandcamp and third party vendors setting all this stuff up. It's being done cheaply to the lowest common denominator of fans. It's not like Jon was ever in the mail room sending this stuff out and coming up with cool ideas. He did the music, the management made sure it looked good. You lose the label, you lose funding, you go for the easy sale. JMO.

I think that's a disservice to Jon. He was always more than just the music and always took an active involvement in the day to day management of the band once Doc was fired, at least to my understanding. And the final word was always is. He just had a bigger and better team to work with back then.

In the same way he needed someone like Richie to stand up to him musically, and challenge his ideas, I think he is missing that now on the business side of things too. That's what happens when you surround yourself with people that just tell you that everything you say or do is great!


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