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steel_horse75 01-09-2021 12:54 AM

The box was a load of cheap tat that no one wants. I've seen a few on ebay.

People want demos, unreleased tracks and unseen footage- and that's how its been sold with Jon walking through a room full of boxes and Matt saying we have the keys back and are in total control again.....

If whats (finally) released looks decent then I'll join but at the moment the money is better off in my bank account rather than Jon's.

Even Jon's biggest fan must admit that so far...unless you paid for a box membership so far you've had nothing.

No idea why they haven't released Halo as mentioned yet.





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rolo_tomachi 01-09-2021 01:01 AM

Do you think Jon is maybe finishing these songs? maybe the 7 songs he mentioned were not finished, and he wants to add guitars, some vocal line, new backing vocals or whatever, as it already happened with the 2004 Box Set. Maybe that's why we haven't gotten these songs yet. Just a guess.



I feel like when this trip is over, it will have been worth it, and I think we will get more than 7 unreleased tracks, and more live performances than we would take for granted.

Xavi 01-09-2021 01:43 AM

I think Jon is on vacation for nearly a month on his brand new Florida mansion...

Captain_jovi 01-09-2021 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1271619)
Do you think Jon is maybe finishing these songs? maybe the 7 songs he mentioned were not finished, and he wants to add guitars, some vocal line, new backing vocals or whatever, as it already happened with the 2004 Box Set. Maybe that's why we haven't gotten these songs yet. Just a guess.



I feel like when this trip is over, it will have been worth it, and I think we will get more than 7 unreleased tracks, and more live performances than we would take for granted.

You're comparing a 4 disc, 50 song project he was paid for to a song here or there as a throwaway in this thing though. I just don't see him putting work into something that's not being sold. We haven't gotten them yet because we're getting things monthly. Nov and Dec are done and we'll see what happens in January.

Captain_jovi 01-09-2021 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1271617)

People want demos, unreleased tracks and unseen footage- and that's how its been sold with Jon walking through a room full of boxes and Matt saying we have the keys back and are in total control again.....

If whats (finally) released looks decent then I'll join but at the moment the money is better off in my bank account rather than Jon's.

Even Jon's biggest fan must admit that so far...unless you paid for a box membership so far you've had nothing.

No idea why they haven't released Halo as mentioned yet.

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This is being marketed towards a group that is happy to get merch, not really us. For the few you've seen on ebay there's enough people on twitter that are cool getting anything with the name on it. I agree with Faith1985. For the price of the merch, retail value not cost to make it, members got their moneys worth with this.

If anyone was "sold" on this based on that footage and assumed it would be a treasure trove of unreleased gold, come on. Look at what's been released so far, all the material we've got has been timely. New album show comes out to promote the album, holiday songs need to be December. But if anyone thinks Jon is taking his time with it to make the songs better in the studio or rummaging to put out a 12 song sampler of unreleased songs, I have a plot of land to sell you on the moon.

YOVANAfromPeru 01-09-2021 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by steel_horse75 (Post 1271601)
See how he replies to 'on the firm' Jerry

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Jerry the Jelly

YOVANAfromPeru 01-09-2021 03:27 AM

First he said:
1. "if you're a member of the Experience you're gonna get the director's cut very shortly, a day after, it's going to have at least 6 other songs on it" (he was talking about On A Night Like This)
2. "I think we stumbles over 12 songs that I forgot about" (he was talking about 40 years of live shows and unreleased songs)
3. "there are those Christmas concerts, there's DVD's of that" (he was talking about Count Basie)
4. "every week I'm gonna find something creative to do, because I don't have a job and I have nothing else to do"
5. "The vaults are open"
Then he said:
"I don't know it would 1 or 3 months later, but we're going with the director's cut with at least 6 different songs on it. All this kind of things are gonna happen all year around."

Captain_jovi 01-09-2021 03:31 AM

Here's what I don't get....why mention the Christmas concerts at all if it wasn't ear-marked for December 2020? Unless they're holding off a full year for it, I don't see them putting it out in May.

YOVANAfromPeru 01-09-2021 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1271625)
Here's what I don't get....why mention the Christmas concerts at all if it wasn't ear-marked for December 2020? Unless they're holding off a full year for it, I don't see them putting it out in May.

"As I mentioned before there are those Christmas concerts, there's DVD's of that. All of this gonna go in our archive, all is gonna eventually become a part of what is gonna be the experience. Just last weekend we recorded 3 Christmas songs like I said, beautifully shot, wonderfully recorded; because I can't have the band around I did it with the Kings, but next weekend they'll be on the experience."
"Someday everyone gonna hear it. It's an outtake, and the song is called Halo, and I co-wrote that one with Billy Falcon, and we tried and we tried; and we kept rewritten it, working on the second day the third day on the studio. Chorus is great verses isn't great, verses is great chorus isn't right.
You gotta write it for you. And whatever happens, happens."
I guess a lot of ideas... to be concretized, yet?

steel_horse75 01-09-2021 10:59 AM

New Fan Club Package Updates
 
I just feel if you’re charging people money for something then you best have something to give the fans.

So far ...Nothing worth paying for.

I was listening to the Hammersmith Gig the other day and cadalic man came on. Jon says it’s been recorded for a film. Why not give that away as incentive? Something to make fans think they can’t possibly be without this membership.

I dunno, maybe I’m old fashioned (46 next week) and when I pay for something I expect value for money.


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