The description of the membership stated merch. The yeti comes pretty handy (I've used it a few days and it keeps my coffee warm) The socks are of good quality The scarf is thin but alright for a light day in winter
I've not read one negative post about the box on instagram and no, not everyone is waiting for unreleased songs. I liked the christmas videos too and so did quite a few people.
The deal you are getting with the 4 boxes and the digital content is fine.
Yes, you want music and there are still months to come Just wait.

No one is talking about the Box!!! We are talking about Silver Members who spent 80 bucks and haven't gotten shit in two months...

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Yes thats what I'm on about. The boxes were another level of membership.

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Yeah but you're literally complaining about something you didn't buy.

This is all "value is subjective" territory. If they had done things right and kept it exclusive, performances of Luv Can, Shine, the directors cut of the performance with additional songs, the Q and As, tour of the studio within the first two months.....basically $80/12 = $6 worth of content per month. They're hitting that quota and $6 isn't really hard to hit.

I don't think they've done a terrible job at the price point/upload ratio, I think they've done a terrible job at keeping things exclusive. You and RD don't like the selection thus far, and that's fine but, it's 2 months out of 12. Surely you have to see how easy it is to get you complaining about the value of something you didn't even pay for.

I purchased mine on Black Friday for 15% off.... 68 bucks

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So $5.60s worth of content per month in your case. I think they could be doing a way better job but it's barely January. Increase encryption, do what you gotta do to keep it exclusive and that price point isn't bad.

No! The value is 80 dollars

Just because you get something on sale, doesn't mean the value should be reduced. That's like buying a shirt and saying it's okay that its ripped because it's on sale...


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Alright for the sake of your argument I'll add the $.44 cents per month back on the price....my point was more you got it discounted and aren't happy with it, I specifically mean in your case if you feel like it's a waste of money.

I can see the complaint about the lack of exclusivity (though i don't believe the interview and q and a stuff and tour of the studio was on youtube) and I realize I'm being VERY repetitive about this, the CPM broken down isn't the worst.

The Q&A and the Studio Tour haven't leaked. I never saw them 'round.

The Q&A was mostly boring. You lose interest when you can blindly pick the ones that are allowed to talk to Jon beforehand and 5 of your 6 picks are correct because always the same ones get chosen.

On the one hand, I'm with someone like Matt saying that it still runs for 10 months or so and that we can complain after that.
On the other hand, I get why people are a bit upset. I'm pretty sure they did that whole thing with Jon holding up an old VHS and talking about demo songs because they knew they'd get a specific fan demographic on board with that. If they don't live up to that promise in the end, it's kind of a rip-off. If they put out some shows and a few demos, it's good. But it can't be excused with "it needs to be prepared first". These things can easily be done within one day, even if the stuff is still just on a VHS. And teasing with footage of a Christmas show, it feels like a wasted opportunity that they didn't put one up there in December. I don't need Red Bank in July. :D