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rolo_tomachi 02-11-2021 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1272381)
I'm still baffled as to why they gave us recycled material when they have an entire vault full of unreleased material.

Someone should really call them out on their shit.

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272385)
Yup. The second people stop paying for it, they'll notice. Unfortunately that's not going to happen.

Well, some people on twitter might try to let Matt Bongiovi know, but I don't know if this is going to work. So they had the keys ... right?

Captain_jovi 02-11-2021 06:32 PM

I just don't think it's going to work. If people are paying and happy with it, regardless of what type of fan they are, it's supply and demand. If people stop paying that means there's no audience for it. Hopefully they take the feedback from our side of the fanbase and improve on it but when's the last time they've done something to show that they will? Stagnant setlists show it doesn't matter to them, they have enough casual fans to make the money they want.

It's money. They stop getting it, they'll listen. Matt's twitter is literally filled with him tweeting about bitcoin and #dogelife. He doesn't get this side of the fanbase.

fanofrem 02-11-2021 06:33 PM

How is the video quality and sound of Bed of Roses?


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Alphavictim 02-11-2021 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272387)
I just don't think it's going to work. If people are paying and happy with it, regardless of what type of fan they are, it's supply and demand. If people stop paying that means there's no audience for it. Hopefully they take the feedback from our side of the fanbase and improve on it but when's the last time they've done something to show that they will? Stagnant setlists show it doesn't matter to them, they have enough casual fans to make the money they want.

It's money. They stop getting it, they'll listen. Matt's twitter is literally filled with him tweeting about bitcoin and #dogelife. He doesn't get this side of the fanbase.

So he neither understands the art and the craft nor is he a good business man. Good going.

It is the ultimate irony that AC/DC outsell Bon Jovi by far by now, and that even Def Leppard make more of a splash when it comes to them doing fan events. Running BJ like a pure company - as in: everything FEELS corporate too - really didn't work out well in the long run.

liljovi93 02-11-2021 07:22 PM

You only need to look at the comments on Jon's latest post.

"All 4 performances are amazing, I love the JBJ experience"

"Thank you for these, have a wonderful valentine's Day"

It's people who are either paid to promote the band or are craving a reply from Jon so they can stick "Jon replied to me on 11/02/21"

Honestly, I know the reviews are the same here and it's becoming a bit boring from all of us but this has been worse than I thought. Yeah, you can say they never promised us anything. Yeah, you can say that we don't have to pay for it (I haven't) if we don't want too etc .. but it's really been a disgrace.

The Xmas box was pathetic. I have a printing business and the Santa hat and bauble I could do for £5 tops. Legit. The socks, cool, but as part of a £300 membership thing? Nah. Sorry. A photo of Jon in a cotton turtle neck. No.

The valentine's Day videos would have been fine on YouTube. A couple of songs that you think Jon may have forgotten about etc... But as part of the membership is poor. Rolo used some good examples of how that could have been made so much better.

As stated, they don't care. People are paying for it. That's fine. It's not my money and what others do with it is fine but I just can't accept the fact that people are happy with it. I just can't.


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Captain_jovi 02-11-2021 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1272390)
You only need to look at the comments on Jon's latest post.

"All 4 performances are amazing, I love the JBJ experience"

"Thank you for these, have a wonderful valentine's Day"

It's people who are either paid to promote the band or are craving a reply from Jon so they can stick "Jon replied to me on 11/02/21"

Honestly, I know the reviews are the same here and it's becoming a bit boring from all of us but this has been worse than I thought. Yeah, you can say they never promised us anything. Yeah, you can say that we don't have to pay for it (I haven't) if we don't want too etc .. but it's really been a disgrace.

The Xmas box was pathetic. I have a printing business and the Santa hat and bauble I could do for £5 tops. Legit. The socks, cool, but as part of a £300 membership thing? Nah. Sorry. A photo of Jon in a cotton turtle neck. No.

The valentine's Day videos would have been fine on YouTube. A couple of songs that you think Jon may have forgotten about etc... But as part of the membership is poor. Rolo used some good examples of how that could have been made so much better.

As stated, they don't care. People are paying for it. That's fine. It's not my money and what others do with it is fine but I just can't accept the fact that people are happy with it. I just can't.


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Don't get me wrong, word for word I agree with you. They've curated this rabid fan base that lives and dies by his word and will scoop up anything with his name on it and it has pushed our views and wants to the side because pleasing us means spending money. Pleasing them is a cheap hat marked up 300%. I think Alpha has it bang on, it's run like a corporation. To not do the bare minimum research to see what products these 4 songs were already released on shouldn't be part of this package if you're going to say things like never-before-seen and not deliver on it.

But on the other side of the tracks, I don't actually think Jerry is employed by the band. If he's happy I can't be mad at that. I used to be like that but loving this band jades the hell out of you and I cannot understand why it hasn't. Is it being easily pleased? I legit don't know.

liljovi93 02-11-2021 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272391)
Don't get me wrong, word for word I agree with you. They've curated this rabid fan base that lives and dies by his word and will scoop up anything with his name on it and it has pushed our views and wants to the side because pleasing us means spending money. Pleasing them is a cheap hat marked up 300%. I think Alpha has it bang on, it's run like a corporation. To not do the bare minimum research to see what products these 4 songs were already released on shouldn't be part of this package if you're going to say things like never-before-seen and not deliver on it.



But on the other side of the tracks, I don't actually think Jerry is employed by the band. If he's happy I can't be mad at that. I used to be like that but loving this band jades the hell out of you and I cannot understand why it hasn't. Is it being easily pleased? I legit don't know.

A little birdy told me one or two things about him. True or not, that's for our own decision of course but I'm inclined to believe. Also, I don't just mean he's paid in cash. Goodies, early info, meeting of the band members, tickets to shows etc....

He's just one of a few I have been told about anyway. You probably know the others.

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Captain_jovi 02-11-2021 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1272392)
A little birdy told me one or two things about him. True or not, that's for our own decision of course but I'm inclined to believe. Also, I don't just mean he's paid in cash. Goodies, early info, meeting of the band members, tickets to shows etc....

He's just one of a few I have been told about anyway. You probably know the others.

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Ohhhh boy. I wasn't aware of that. Almost to be a hype person on social media. Interesting!

liljovi93 02-11-2021 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272393)
Ohhhh boy. I wasn't aware of that. Almost to be a hype person on social media. Interesting!

As I said mate, could be bull but he certainly doesn't make me think that person is lying haha. Ah well, as you said, maybe he is just easily pleased and that's absolutely no problem. I just feel sometimes it can be a bit forced and it's a bit too much but again, maybe I'm/we are just different.

Still plenty of time to produce good stuff for us anyway. Let's hope!

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Captain_jovi 02-11-2021 08:09 PM

My fingers are crossed "days and months ahead" means sporadic additions and not the "one a month" format we assumed here.


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