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JoviForever 02-12-2021 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272427)
This isn't the first time I've heard this take and I'm struggling to understand it. If the album is dead in the water why are people against him going on shows to promote singles? To say the single is dead in the water like 10 days after release....huh?

I can't see it succeeding but at least give it a chance to fail. He's at least out there talking about it and that's better than selling wine.

If it’s not being played on the radio it’s got no chance.

James_86 02-12-2021 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JoviForever (Post 1272426)
That Jerry guy blocked me because I dared to say something negative about Jon! He is either employed by them or has an unhealthy obsession with Jon and or the band.

I don't think he's employed by them. I actually think Jon would have this guy removed if he ever tried to get close to the band. That being said, I think he's pally with Matt and privy to certain bits of information.

Yeah, he's definitely got an unhealthy obsession with the band. He's also got a slightly worrying obsession with Taylor Swift and he's the unofficial sixth backstreet boy [emoji23]

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Captain_jovi 02-12-2021 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JoviForever (Post 1272428)
If it’s not being played on the radio it’s got no chance.

Which I totally understand but again, it's ten days in. It has every chance in the world to fail but also has a chance at success if Jon's out there promoting it. Its a damned if you don't/damned if you do if here sitting at home doing nothing related to the album. They need a really strong marketing campaign to get this out there but it's too soon to say the song is dead.

Rdkopper 02-12-2021 10:05 PM

Let's not forget, when THINFS was released, we got a totally of 19 tracks... Now we only get 12 with 2020 and the one bonus track mentioned "Halo" gets thrown out there as part of The Experience...

Again, not really a great deal for what I signed up for. Halo should be "an addition to"... Not the backbone of it.

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Litneg 02-12-2021 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1272435)
Let's not forget, when THINFS was released, we got a totally of 19 tracks... Now we only get 12 with 2020 and the one bonus track mentioned "Halo" gets thrown out there as part of The Experience...

Again, not really a great deal for what I signed up for. Halo should be "an addition to"... Not the backbone of it.

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Let's say 21, counting the re-release.

Captain_jovi 02-12-2021 11:03 PM

It's a completely different pricing model, I don't see how the two are remotely similar other than "how dare they sell us so much product last time and have nothing for us this time"

Rdkopper 02-12-2021 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1272437)
It's a completely different pricing model, I don't see how the two are remotely similar other than "how dare they sell us so much product last time and have nothing for us this time"

I guess you're missing the point again... It's about filling The Experience with fluff to make it look like we are actually getting more than reality.

Bonus tracks from current releases were always just expected. A leftover track from a current release would sell for a buck on iTunes... We got a 4 Disc 1 DVD set for around 50 bucks in 2004.

Making your one leftover song a backbone from your current release isn't enough to satisfy the 80 bucks I dropped on The Experience.

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Rdkopper 02-12-2021 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1272418)
Since the beginning, Jon has been breaking his promise, correct me if I am wrong:



He said:



*The members will get a cut from the director of On A Night Like This with 6 bonus songs, the same day the movie is released on YouTube.



*We would hear Halo soon.



*Unpublished photographic material and alternative shots.



*In the Valentine's Day video, he said 4 never seen before videos.





So clearly, he's not doing shit, he's probably using his time to rest, and maybe compose for a new album. At one point in the livechat he said something like "I'm going to give you my best right all this year, because I have nothing to do." Well, we already know that his word is not worth shit.

You missed a few other thing...

All those Christmas DVDs (Red Bank Count Basie Shows).

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nikos greece 02-13-2021 12:13 PM

i agree the jbj experience is a bit of a let down til now...BUT

1. Jon highlighted in the exclusive talk that the bonus tracks might be ready in 2-3 weeks or 2-3 months, they will be uploaded but couldnt tell a certain date. He used carefully his words to avoid misunderstandings. he said though they ll be shared the coming months. he is right on that one..

2. the bed of roses video is a start. havent seen the video live in youtube. it certainly looks
rough, and thats truly disappointing but i hope we ll get at least 1 pro shot video from the past, sth not released within the year. i also hope jon gives access to their live shows to a guy who will put the love and work to make them sound and look great...imo this is their legacy..they had the hits and they had great live shows... releasing, at first in jbj experience and later on youtube a couple truly great live moments will work as a proof how good they used to be time and time again

and as many have already mentioned, if they put some thought and effort there are at least 5 pro shots concerts, aimed for a released that werent released in the end. yokohama 93, central park 2008 for example that have potential to be shared and and have a great quality.

rolo_tomachi 02-13-2021 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nikos greece (Post 1272444)
i agree the jbj experience is a bit of a let down til now...BUT

1. Jon highlighted in the exclusive talk that the bonus tracks might be ready in 2-3 weeks or 2-3 months, they will be uploaded but couldnt tell a certain date. He used carefully his words to avoid misunderstandings. he said though they ll be shared the coming months. he is right on that one..

2. the bed of roses video is a start. havent seen the video live in youtube. it certainly looks
rough, and thats truly disappointing but i hope we ll get at least 1 pro shot video from the past, sth not released within the year. i also hope jon gives access to their live shows to a guy who will put the love and work to make them sound and look great...imo this is their legacy..they had the hits and they had great live shows... releasing, at first in jbj experience and later on youtube a couple truly great live moments will work as a proof how good they used to be time and time again

and as many have already mentioned, if they put some thought and effort there are at least 5 pro shots concerts, aimed for a released that werent released in the end. yokohama 93, central park 2008 for example that have potential to be shared and and have a great quality.

Well, I didn't remember that part. So okay, we may get something worthwhile in the next few months. But having to wait for the last three months of uploading for something fantastic to happen seems like a disappointment to me, since you are paying an annual membership, so they should make sure to release great stuff every month. Jon says he has a lot of content in the vaults, there are no excuses for not releasing something great every month.

They could drop some of the HAND tour, the Boston concert was professionally recorded, they could also release demos of Sex Sells, you know, but they're not taking it into account, and the months go by.

They started well with the Christmas songs and Luv Can & Shine, but the rest has been insufficient. This should get better and better, but it feels like it's worse than the beginning.

My point is .. this is an annual subscription, damn, if we finally only get the rarities in the last 3 months it will be a disappointment.



I just hope that all this waiting is for a reason, something like they are remastering things to release them in the spring, and they need these months to work on it, but if we come to summer with the same vague monthly release, then they are not taking this so seriously.... and all of this JBJ Experience and its exclusivity would have been total shit.


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