Runaway Tours to take place in Miami, this June.

Packages from 1600$ to +2000$.

Absolute joke and again shows that Bon Jovi INC is concerned about money making not the health of fans.

Experience updated! I think it's a full concert... San Jose, Lost Highway Tour

Complicated, I Love This Town and Last Man Standing from San Jose, CA (02.04.2008).
At least they didn't post the bald Daughtry >_< jaja.

On the bright side, none of them were singles.

This prices are insane.
Jon releases Do what you can....then charges £2k for a poorly sang setlist full of covers.

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After 1+ year of a pandemic and economic crisis, Americans are in dire straits. Who's gonna lend a "helping hand"™? You know who. This is why we at Jon Bon Jovi's™ felt it was time to give - to give the American™ Working Man™ the chance to Experience™ the JBJ Experience™! These are my people, this is my crowd - the corporate route!

It wouldn't bother me as much if JBJ wouldn't constantly act like he's following Springsteen's lead. He may be well meaning sometimes, but he is playing to rich housewives almost exclusively - so much for inclusion. Although at least - taking their money to provide meals for people without a home probably takes precdent over allowing lower middle class into his shows. Still.

Agreed with the above. The timing is tacky. This is not the time to celebrate. North America is not out of this yet. Vaccines are flowing but putting this up with so little notice to buy tickets, especially since so much of the fan base that goes to this flies from other countries....at least give it until fall when things might be more secure. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Watching the San Jose LH footage and not sure why they chose it. It's awesome they're finally putting out unreleased stuff but Tico looks bored, Richie biffs the riff to Last Man Standing (in fairness I think this was the tour he started doing it without the Capo, changing the way the riff is played). Jon's voice is in okay shape but not great. Just an odd show to pluck out of the pile. But it's unreleased so at least there's that.

Very much agreed. Jon always acts as if he wants to be the next Dylan, Wait, Springsteen, Cohen, but neither his actions nor his songwriting come anywhere close to that. I've just finished reading Bruce's biography and it started diggin' into his albums simultaneously. Not only has it sparked a whole new appreciation for the Boss, but it has also blatantly shown how much half-assed most of the Jovi world has become these days and actually, it pretty much has turned me off from BJ for now.

During the bridge in I Love This Town, Jon is pretending to be Bruce Springsteen...

From the fake smile to the dancing, it's like a tryout for a Springsteen cover band.

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Complete joke they are doing this so soon for obscene money at that. I’ve told Matt he should go back to buying and selling Bitcoin to make his money!

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Why. Why put on this trip, need everyone to prove they don't have it when you could just wait. I mean I KNOW why but this is going to be such a mess.

This is just another reason why I can't be assed with the band anymore.

Honestly, the latest 2 years or so in particular with these cruises and stuff has massively put me off Jon and dare I say it, the brand.

The same people are going to be at the front who have been given their tickets. It's going to be the same songs with the same shit dance moves.

I've seen the band get a lot of negativity but the reaction to the Twitter post of this announcement was another level.

Matt is doing this Facebook live because of that. He's trying to sell it even more and have the usual suspects up his ass in the comments.

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Yeah, pretty much the first time I'm really feeling bad about the band. And that's saying something after almost 30 years.

I've tweeted at Matt and Runaway tours how wrong this is and how I dislike what has become of JBJ and the brand, and how sick ol' Jerry will have a good time and get the first questions (with mentions of course). Let's see who blocks me first ;-)

They should change the name to Brand Jovi.



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the 3 songs from lh in the experience is definetely astep into the right direction..
the quality could be higher, the songs mixed edited better but still i ll be happy if these proshots appear once in a while..
regarding the trip etc its sad...obviously its easy money but hurts bjs legacy on the longrun...

Pretty much my sentiments exactly. How someone can claim to be on the side of the working man, turn around and with no hint of irony, charge up to $2000 a ticket is beyond me.

In my head I like to think that 90's Jon, the Jon that still had a desire and passion to succeed, would be disgusted by all this.

I just can't stomach Bon Jovi anymore. Pretty much anything Jon has done for the last 4 or 5 years has pushed me further and further away from the band. Add this to the Super League stuff going on this week and I've lost faith in so much that meant so much to me.

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It is an interesting consideration for sure. Grey Summer JBJ, burnt out by the music business, the band almost driven to exctintion / breaking up by too much touring, dissillusioned with it all... tell him, hey, it's me, from the future! In 30 years Richie will have quit the band due to overtouring, you will be playing cruise ships exclusively to people who can afford a $1500+ price tag ("the people's band"), Alec of course is long gone by then. Also, you will have insisted on that tour that broke the band because you wanted to buy a football team. Did I mention you will have explicitly political lyrics about being there for the small time guy, available as back printings on the $50 shirts your brother will be selling for you by then?

Shudder. "The Fire Inside" my ass. At least he stopped the CEO bullshit as far as the rhetoric is concerned.

I guess EVERYTHING boils down to the fact John Bongiovi was never there for THE MUSIC. He was always there for the music...but only as a secondary to take him to sell out the stadiums / get gold records /go touring / buying football team. But not solely for the music.

He was never there for the music but was there for the music but not solely for the music?

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I often wonder this myself. They are like two different people. Was it all just an act all along (I don't think it was..?), or did he really change that much?

I think they are mad doing it, it’ll be the same old people anyway.

As for Jerry, a couple of years ago it was all BSB obsession then suddenly it was back to Jovi. Would love to know the back story on why he suddenly switched back and has never spoken of BSB again

Maybe a restraining order? :D Although judging by the things people are saying on here, it might be strictly business for the guy. Who knows.

Can you imagine the terrible press if somebody died on that cruise?

He has a restraining order from one of the BSB members. True story.

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Jelly to jail!
lol

Wow, I did not expect that to be the reason. It’ll be Jon next, haha

I can’t believe they have sold Miami as well as they have, for all the differences the same old cost makes zero sense.

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I’m currently reading a book on the 80s LA Rock music scene Nothing But A Good Time and it’s quite clear Jon is a businessman. They way he refused to relinquish his half in the Skid Row deal (Richie just turned round and said I already have more money than I know what to do with so you can take me off the contract) and also the band Trixter were struggling with their 2nd album and he offered them a slot on the KTF tour....for £100k which they didn’t have so couldn’t do it.
He loved telling Skid Row I own you whenever things got heated on the road.

What he is doing with these cruises is just selling to the bored housewives that workshop him. Look at most of the replies to Matt, 90% of them are women who think Jon’s cute. He knows this and plays to it. They’ll buy all the tacky memorabilia on the boat and pay $$$$ for anything Jon related.

The cruises have nothing to do with Jon Bon Jovi the artist it’s all about Jon Bon Jovi the businessman. The set will be half covers and Jon on autopilot. He’s on and off the boat in a few hours.



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I do wonder if Jon knows what he is getting involved in when it comes to Jelly. He clearly doesn’t know about the restraining order otherwise why would you touch anyone like that with a bargepole?


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I doubt JBJ knows much about the whole affair at all. He signed some records mostly I'd assume. God knows he doesn't seem to use social media much, so to him the guy is probably just "the internet hype guy Matt got".

(Regarding Skid Row: Reminder that JBJ and Snake from Skid Row were childhood buddies.)

Yeah they were. I think Seb drove Jon mad. He started slagging Jbj off on stage during the New Jersey tour. So Jon hit him and then started saying to him that he owed him for everything.

He was right. Seb was a twat. Still is. Great voice though.


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Baz always thought Skid Row (and he as their singer) were closer to Judas Priest than to Bon Jovi. And that put a huge chip on his shoulder.

He had the pipes for sure, but he is a bit of a simpleton (the "Aids kills fags dead" shirt incident bears witness to this), and he didn't contribute to the writing of any of the classics. Huge ego, too. There's a reason Skid Row never reunited with him.

Snake has defended Jon on this time and time again throughout the years. All the members of Skid Row knew what they were getting into with their deal and Richie never gave any money back. He doesnt go into any specifics but everyone that made money off Skid Row also invested in them beforehand so, make that what you will. "They did make a lot of money off us but we did make a pretty penny ourselves in the process". That's about as negative a comment as Snake has ever said about Jon or Richie.

This trip isn’t actually a cruise.

I just think he stopped caring about delivering the best music he could and became more focused on being the biggest. In the early 2000s his narrative changed to x amount of this, x amount of that. He realized he could position Bon Jovi amongst the elite, at least in terms of sales, shows, etc.

What I think he never got was the band was already going there anyway. Imagine if they had been able to deliver an album of similar quality to These Days around the Crush/Bounce era instead of essentially aim directly for the American housewife.

I refuse to believe the Jon who worte These Days and Destination Anywhere was unable to write similar work just 3-5 years later. It's the story we all know, he was completely blinded by the success of It's My Life, which while only a modest hit in the U.S. was a bigger song than it's chart position suggested and give the band a way back into the U.S. market. He's been catering to that market ever since.

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I don't think Jon was able to write stuff capable of being as good as These Days anymore. The situation in which songs were written was just so very, very different. Destination Anywhere has great stuff on it but also has something else; zeitgeist. These songs wouldn't work just a few years later as most influences on the album were gone about a year later due to the demise of Britpop. Really, half of the album is Jon stealing songs and close to full chord progressions from others. Very much like he'd go on to do on Crush.

Pretty much all songs of the Crush sessions are available and yet no tracklist would live up to the tracklist of These Days. The difference is the production would be similar to the songs he stole from so the similiarities are a lot more obvious. The fact that boybands and pop music were riding that high on the charts meant there wasn't much to steal from, so you'd wind up with songs sounding like Westlife and the Backstreet Boys as opposed to Oasis, Bush and Garbage. It's why Have A Nice Day is just so much better compared to Bounce. Guitar bands had become a thing in the U.S.A. again so Jon could nick things again from influences closer to his heart and not have to follow stuff like Kid Rock, Linkin Park and Creed as he felt he had to do with Bounce. Jon needs to be "influenced" by artists he believes in as opposed to artists others seem to believe in. Yet he measures succes by what's on the charts.

Now even though most 35 year-olds think These Days is Bon Jovi peaking, These Days has fillers and stuff no one rates that high. Something To Believe In is saved by the vocals, without it it's a mediocre song with the same cheesy lyrics appearing on Crush and Bounce as well (If I don't believe in heroin, how can I believe in dope?). If That's What It Takes is filler and would be ripped to shreds would it have appeared on another album. Something For The Pain is their first critisized single not universally liked. This Ain't A Love Song is a great ballad but most agree Always, Bed Of Roses and I'll Be There For You are better. It's just that the overal quality on These Days is a lot better. It was made with the right producer, the right mindset and a vocalist who had no trouble hitting the notes. It's also a testament to Jon's river running dry. But unlike Crush though, there's no really, really mediocre stuff on it.

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Ngl I always thought that was 'If I don't believe in Heaven, how can I believe in love'. Always nice to be cleared up lol

Isn't English actually your native language? :p:mrgreen:

This is the answer right here!!!

Take the same songs from Slippery When Wet and have them recreate that album today (create it like it's the first time - not purposely try to mimic it)

The entire album won't be the same album anymore. It would be recorded in a lower key with zero range to match Jon's voice. The vocal tone of the album won't even sound the same. The key change from Prayer wouldn't exist.

The instruments themselves will have no balls. No cool guitar riffs or anything natural. Just Shanks overlapping tracks with a bunch of shit.

And the same goes the other way... I'd love to see what a 1995 Bon Jovi would do with a song like Devils In The Temple or Teardrop To The Sea.

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