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Captain_jovi 12-05-2020 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fanofrem (Post 1270955)
Thanks for the info. Is there any other songs like that released?


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Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean. From AmericanXS? No. Other songs from KTF released much later? Drive.

Captain_jovi 12-05-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nige (Post 1270954)
I got my $10 refunded when they cancelled AmericanXS.

Hahaha fans literally got their money back and still people are crapping on it. This fan base will never get what it wants.

Litneg 12-05-2020 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1270956)
Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean. From AmericanXS? No. Other songs from KTF released much later? Drive.

The chorus of this song just reminds me of You Shook Me All Night Long.

rolo_tomachi 12-05-2020 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1270957)
Hahaha fans literally got their money back and still people are crapping on it. This fan base will never get what it wants.

Why do you think they got that money back? It was so disappointing that if they did not return the money after what they promised and did not deliver, it would have been a scam.


I just hope that Jon this time reaches the end, and does not let himself be influenced by the number of subscribers, as it could be repeated. Imagine they expect at least 10,000 subscribers at least but they only got 500. This could demotivate Jon so much that history would repeat itself, and everything that was promised would be limited to just a few songs. That is my fear. I hope you have understood by now. I just want Jon to go through with his plan, whether it's for 500 subscribers or 10,000.

Captain_jovi 12-05-2020 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1270959)
Why do you think they got that money back? It was so disappointing that if they did not return the money after what they promised and did not deliver, it would have been a scam.


I just hope that Jon this time reaches the end, and does not let himself be influenced by the number of subscribers, as it could be repeated. Imagine they expect at least 10,000 subscribers at least but they only got 500. This could demotivate Jon so much that history would repeat itself, and everything that was promised would be limited to just a few songs. That is my fear. I hope you have understood by now. I just want Jon to go through with his plan, whether it's for 500 subscribers or 10,000.

AmericanXS people got their money back because it folded. You don't know what the word scam means, you need to stop using it. Again, man, this JBJ Experience isn't for us. This isn't for the collectors and completists. If you're paying $80/year hoping SPECIFICALLY you'll get enough unreleased songs to warrant that cost you're going to be disappointed. This isn't marketed to us and people will have no one to blame but themselves as zero promises were made on the amount of songs, the quality of them or how often. It's a gamble and a crapshoot but it's not scamming anyone.

rolo_tomachi 12-05-2020 08:58 PM

Well he said, the vault are open, and then we saw a teaser with some powerful footage from shows from the 80s, 90s and early 2000s. He said Never-Heard-Before Tracks. How the hell can't this be for me?

Not saying anything clearly but hinting can be a trick or something really exciting to come.

I have no more energy to discuss this, let's wait and see what they release for a year. Then we will know if it was worth it.

Xavi 12-06-2020 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1270962)
Well he said, the vault are open, and then we saw a teaser with some powerful footage from shows from the 80s, 90s and early 2000s. He said Never-Heard-Before Tracks. How the hell can't this be for me?

Not saying anything clearly but hinting can be a trick or something really exciting to come.

I have no more energy to discuss this, let's wait and see what they release for a year. Then we will know if it was worth it.

Im with you on that.
I cant understand this discussion.
Lets wait and see what they will release,and then see if it was worth it or not.

rolo_tomachi 12-06-2020 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1270972)
Im with you on that.
I cant understand this discussion.
Lets wait and see what they will release,and then see if it was worth it or not.

Of course, but I understand that this is a fan site, and everyone is free to post what they think. I only try to give my opinion on the matter, it is only a personal perception, my thoughts are not facts, only conjectures. Arguing about it is great too.

I love the new album 2020, if Jon releases more tracks that were left out of this record, I would be very happy, not everything has to be related to the old stuff.

Captain_jovi 12-06-2020 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1270972)
Im with you on that.
I cant understand this discussion.
Lets wait and see what they will release,and then see if it was worth it or not.

Yeah, absolutely, I don't want to dissuade anyone one way or another. It's $80/$200 month for a bunch of stuff AND some unreleased music, not the other way around. Someone mentioned the price of the box set compared to this and it's just such a different type of fan base/project.

I'm hoping like hell we at least get 5 or 6 gems :)

Xavi 12-06-2020 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1270975)
Yeah, absolutely, I don't want to dissuade anyone one way or another. It's $80/$200 month for a bunch of stuff AND some unreleased music, not the other way around. Someone mentioned the price of the box set compared to this and it's just such a different type of fan base/project.

I'm hoping like hell we at least get 5 or 6 gems :)

You cant compare prizes from today to 16 years ago.
In 2003 I paid 30 euros to see Bon Jovi in Madrid.
Last year I paid almost 200.

Captain_jovi 12-06-2020 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavi (Post 1270977)
You cant compare prizes from today to 16 years ago.
In 2003 I paid 30 euros to see Bon Jovi in Madrid.
Last year I paid almost 200.

I completely agree, which is why I don't think it's an apt comparison. It's supply and demand, it's a difference in popularities and the cost of manufacturing and promotion that drastically make the two projects different. But I think we all just agree this is a great opportunity for them to TRY and put out something cool and I'm holding out hope we'll get something good.

Rdkopper 12-06-2020 10:19 PM

The christmas songs are out.

Overall Jon sounds great. He really does. The production and The KOS are also excellent.

Christmas All Over Again is a one to one copy of Petty and sung very well... Jon even gives a little Petty tribute at the end asking for a Tom Petty Songbook and a Tee Shirt.

Christmas Day is a big Elvis song. Jon does a great job. Really does. A few times he is behind but I have to hand it to him overall

The fairytale NY song - I'm not familiar with it and need to adjust to that one. But Jon keeps up throughout the fast Irish parts.

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rolo_tomachi 12-06-2020 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1270979)
The christmas songs are out.

Overall Jon sounds great. He really does. The production and The KOS are also excellent.

Christmas All Over Again is a one to one copy of Petty and sung very well... Jon even gives a little Petty tribute at the end asking for a Tom Petty Songbook and a Tee Shirt.

Christmas Day is a big Elvis song. Jon does a great job. Really does. A few times he is behind but I have to hand it to him overall

The fairytale NY song - I'm not familiar with it and need to adjust to that one. But Jon keeps up throughout the fast Irish parts.

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Where have you heard it?

Rdkopper 12-06-2020 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1270980)
Where have you heard it?

YouTube - just audio... but they are now gone and I didn't record them. Oh well. You all won't be disappointed. Excellent job by all.

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rolo_tomachi 12-06-2020 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1270981)
YouTube - just audio... but they are now gone and I didn't record them. Oh well. You all won't be disappointed. Excellent job by all.

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Is a live performance or studio recording?

Rdkopper 12-07-2020 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1270982)
Is a live performance or studio recording?

Studio.



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Litneg 12-07-2020 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1270981)
YouTube - just audio... but they are now gone and I didn't record them. Oh well. You all won't be disappointed. Excellent job by all.

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They will be released at Bon Jovi's official channel. The links of two out of three are on google, but not the audio-videos

https://www.google.com/search?q=jon+...w=393&bih=760#

Rdkopper 12-07-2020 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Litneg (Post 1270984)
They will be released at Bon Jovi's official channel. The links of two out of three are on google, but not the audio-videos



https://www.google.com/search?q=jon+...w=393&bih=760#

The third one is there too. You probably searched for "Christmas" and Christmas is not in the title for Fairytail Of NY.

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Litneg 12-07-2020 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1270985)
The third one is there too. You probably searched for "Christmas" and Christmas is not in the title for Fairytail Of NY.

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Yeah hahahaha I went for "JBJ Christmas songs 2020".

Rdkopper 12-07-2020 12:42 AM

When I Get Home On Christmas Day is the only one I struggled with even though Jon does a decent job because I'm so familiar with the Elvis version and there is just no comparing it..

Its more of an acoustic style. Piano, violin, bongos...

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Xavi 12-07-2020 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1270978)
I completely agree, which is why I don't think it's an apt comparison. It's supply and demand, it's a difference in popularities and the cost of manufacturing and promotion that drastically make the two projects different. But I think we all just agree this is a great opportunity for them to TRY and put out something cool and I'm holding out hope we'll get something good.

Exactly,completely agree with what you write here.
I guess we have to wait to see if it will worth it or not.

Denmad 12-07-2020 01:17 AM




Captain_jovi 12-07-2020 02:38 AM

Already taken down.

Adam D 12-07-2020 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1270990)
Already taken down.

To be fair, I don't think they have been put up yet.

These are links to the official band YouTube page, where I expect them to be uploaded within the next few days.

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Rdkopper 12-07-2020 03:36 AM

Thanks buddy... I figured what bothers me about the Christmas Day song... He should have sang it in his lower register Elvis voice.

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Litneg 12-07-2020 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam D (Post 1270991)
To be fair, I don't think they have been put up yet.

These are links to the official band YouTube page, where I expect them to be uploaded within the next few days.

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This. I don't know how you call it, it's like "ghost links". The videos are already set to appear on youtube, we just don't know when, but will be very soon. That happened before with DWYC video, for exemple.

And that sounds odd to me, 'cause it's a JBJ+KoS thing posted on BJ's official channel.

Burlhouse 12-07-2020 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Litneg (Post 1270994)
This. I don't know how you call it, it's like "ghost links". The videos are already set to appear on youtube, we just don't know when, but will be very soon. That happened before with DWYC video, for exemple.

And that sounds odd to me, 'cause it's a JBJ+KoS thing posted on BJ's official channel.



The links worked for me this morning.

I am unfamiliar with the originals, but I quite enjoyed them. I realise that they were recorded in a studio, but I find that Jon is more comfortable singing with KoS than with BJ these days.


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jovifan93 12-07-2020 09:55 AM

They're on the experience now. I'm pretty impressed, I must say.

Burlhouse 12-07-2020 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1270997)
They're on the experience now. I'm pretty impressed, I must say.



Yes, videos are up, filmed at the Shoe Inn this time.


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Rdkopper 12-07-2020 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Burlhouse (Post 1270998)
Yes, videos are up, filmed at the Shoe Inn this time.


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I saw that. They probably just filmed the videos there for a change of atmosphere... but actually recorded the audio in the studio.

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rolo_tomachi 12-07-2020 01:39 PM

It's good to see that these songs are on itunes, amazon and spotify.



The new Chritsmas songs videos are in 720p (not 1080p).I suppose that on Christmas days, they will put it on the YouTube channel, and I would not be surprised iif these are in 1080p.

Another thing, so Luv Can and Shine are no longer in JBJ Experience. Why?

james_d 12-07-2020 01:50 PM

Fairytale of NY is my fa Christmas song, so really enjoyed that. I general I'm pretty impressed, a nice addition to the season.

rolo_tomachi 12-07-2020 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by james_d (Post 1271004)
Fairytale of NY is my fa Christmas song, so really enjoyed that. I general I'm pretty impressed, a nice addition to the season.

I agree. In addition, he not only gives us 1 Christmas song, we get 3.

Litneg 12-07-2020 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1271002)
It's good to see that these songs are on itunes, amazon and spotify.



The new Chritsmas songs videos are in 720p (not 1080p).I suppose that on Christmas days, they will put it on the YouTube channel, and I would not be surprised iif these are in 1080p.

Another thing, so Luv Can and Shine are no longer in JBJ Experience. Why?

They aren't on Deezer! C'mon you lazy app! -_-

You sure they were removed? Well they are safe and sound downloaded in my phone, amen.

Jack27 12-07-2020 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1271001)
I saw that. They probably just filmed the videos there for a change of atmosphere... but actually recorded the audio in the studio.

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To me it feels like a live performance touched up. We’ve all seen Jon mime and it doesn’t look as though he is here

Captain_jovi 12-07-2020 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack27 (Post 1271011)
To me it feels like a live performance touched up. We’ve all seen Jon mime and it doesn’t look as though he is here

Agreed. You can audibly hear people breathing naturally in the songs too, they feel real live off the floor to me with some overdubs maybe.

Xavi 12-07-2020 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack27 (Post 1271011)
To me it feels like a live performance touched up. We’ve all seen Jon mime and it doesn’t look as though he is here

Yeah,I agree too
To me it sounds exactly like the "live" performances from home Jon did this year.

adrianoizar 12-07-2020 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1271002)
It's good to see that these songs are on itunes, amazon and spotify.



The new Chritsmas songs videos are in 720p (not 1080p).I suppose that on Christmas days, they will put it on the YouTube channel, and I would not be surprised iif these are in 1080p.

Another thing, so Luv Can and Shine are no longer in JBJ Experience. Why?

videos are in 1280x720p

JoviForever 12-07-2020 08:36 PM

Shame he changed the most famous lyrics from ‘Fairytale’ because they aren’t politically correct. This is my favourite Christmas song and it really needs a female singing on it for it to work.

Captain_jovi 12-07-2020 09:10 PM

I don't blame him in the least for changing the words BUT taking a duet and turning it into a solo thing takes the meaning and intent out of the song. Not to mentioned Lorenza could/should have co-handled the vocals. I have no problems with the song otherwise, it's nice!


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