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liljovi93 12-17-2020 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Litneg (Post 1271339)
I would be soooo damn pissed if I received this...

Awful. Yet people (usual suspects) on Twitter are proper bigging it up.

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SuperBrad 12-17-2020 03:32 PM

Ha love how you threw in Cadillac Man there ..... yeah thats what I would hope for....... i didnt buy into any of this .... merch does nothing for me now days . Anything thats been so called exclusive or special is on youtube for free ...

James_86 12-17-2020 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1271343)
It will be interesting to see the reactions because, and not to toot my own horn here, this is exactly what I said it'd be. Its just an abundance of merch and swag with online songs and video. If you're buying this stuff anyway and honestly just want stuff with the bands name on it, it's not a terrible deal compared to what they usually charge for it. If you're a hardcore collector thinking they're gifting up Cadillac Man your head is deep in the sand here haha.

Exactly my thoughts. It's not even good merch, it looks cheap and tacky.

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Rdkopper 12-17-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Litneg (Post 1271339)
I would be soooo damn pissed if I received this...

And thats why you chose to purchase the Silver Package instead???

But seriously, why would you be pissed? What would you expect? They got a bunch of merchandise and an autographed message from Jon.

Its 200 vs 80 so for the 120 difference, they'll get that 4 times a year which comes out to 30 dollars per box and based on that picture, that's a much higher value than 30 bucks.




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Litneg 12-17-2020 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1271348)
And thats why you chose to purchase the Silver Package instead???

But seriously, why would you be pissed? What would you expect? They got a bunch of merchandise and an autographed message from Jon.

Its 200 vs 80 so for the 120 difference, they'll get that 4 times a year which comes out to 30 dollars per box and based on that picture, that's a much higher value than 30 bucks.




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I didn't sign up the Experience. It's just too expensive when you convert the dollar and so far yet it doesn't worth the price much less does the gold package (also considering the extra taxes for the box).

Like it's been said before on this board - if you're on it for the merch, that's ok. If you're on it for "exclusive content", so far it hasn't worth that much.

Captain_jovi 12-17-2020 04:26 PM

The exclusive content always felt more like an asterisk. The money is for the tangible goods and merch and if you don't care about that then silver made sense. Anyone complaining about Gold....I just don't see how. This is exactly what they said it would be.

rolo_tomachi 12-17-2020 05:08 PM

I think this is good news for those who are only looking for extra music content.

I would be disappointed if the box actually carried DVDs and CDs with never-before-seen music and video ... it would make the Experience Silver very disappointing. However, finally having merch makes perfect sense and is a better fit for those fans who usually shop at the Jovi store.

Rdkopper 12-17-2020 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1271351)
I think this is good news for those who are only looking for extra music content.



I would be disappointed if the box actually carried DVDs and CDs with never-before-seen music and video ... it would make the Experience Silver very disappointing. However, finally having merch makes perfect sense and is a better fit for those fans who usually shop at the Jovi store.

I totally agree. I'm somewhat relieved in a way.

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Captain_jovi 12-17-2020 05:22 PM

On the flip side, silver is paying $80 a year for what? Until they lock down how stuff will stay exclusive it's kind of a wash I guess? At least if the exclusive music/video was on a tangible good it makes it harder to rip and share.

jovifan93 12-17-2020 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1271353)
On the flip side, silver is paying $80 a year for what? Until they lock down how stuff will stay exclusive it's kind of a wash I guess? At least if the exclusive music/video was on a tangible good it makes it harder to rip and share.

Well, I used the Black Friday discount and have signed up for Silver. I'll check it out the first year, and if it proves worth the money, I'll stay on, if not, I'll cancel. Easy as that.

And concerning the boxes: I'm with RD and the Captain on this one. It's exactly what they promised, not sure how anyone could've really thought they'd get something else than merch and maybe an autographed something?

On a side note: does anyone know how to download videos from the experience? I don't want to share them, I just tend to download stuff and save it locally in case it disappears again, but I haven't been able to do so with these Vimeo videos, because they only seem to work embedded in the page, and not outside :-(

Litneg 12-17-2020 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1271355)
Well, I used the Black Friday discount and have signed up for Silver. I'll check it out the first year, and if it proves worth the money, I'll stay on, if not, I'll cancel. Easy as that.

And concerning the boxes: I'm with RD and the Captain on this one. It's exactly what they promised, not sure how anyone could've really thought they'd get something else than merch and maybe an autographed something?

On a side note: does anyone know how to download videos from the experience? I don't want to share them, I just tend to download stuff and save it locally in case it disappears again, but I haven't been able to do so with these Vimeo videos, because they only seem to work embedded in the page, and not outside :-(

I think it was said here that you can't download the videos from there.

jovifan93 12-17-2020 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Litneg (Post 1271356)
I think it was said here that you can't download the videos from there.

Well, someone must have succeeded or how would Shine & Luv Can have surfaced on YouTube? I mean sure, I can grab the screen content, but that would only be my last resort ;-)

Captain_jovi 12-17-2020 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Litneg (Post 1271356)
I think it was said here that you can't download the videos from there.

That's not true. They're out there, some posted publicly. It's probably not as easy as clicking "save as" but I assume it's an embedded link.

Rdkopper 12-17-2020 06:34 PM

I think there is a way to record the stream yourself... if someone can share a program to do so, that would be awesome.

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Litneg 12-17-2020 06:56 PM

Oh, there are extensions on Chrome that allows you to download any video from any page. Some of them really work. Maybe they added and used it to do so.

jovifan93 12-17-2020 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Litneg (Post 1271364)
Oh, there are extensions on Chrome that allows you to download any video from any page. Some of them really work. Maybe they added and used it to do so.

Hmm, I'll look into that. And yes, they're embedded links, which isn't the problem. The problem is that if you paste that link into a video download app, the video will not play/download, because it's harcoded to only play embedded in that specific page. Kind of clever, actually ;-)

And yes, you can record the screen with the Xbox play bar (WIN+G), works nicely, I've already done that with live streams, but the resulting video is rather large and needs compressing afterwards.

jovifan93 12-17-2020 08:24 PM

Ok, got it to work. Just install Vimeo video downloader for Chrome and then go the the site and you'll see a download icon in the upper right corner of the videos. Click that and a menu pops up with the available resolutions. The christmas songs are 720p, but Shine & Luv Can is actually 1080p. Nice :)

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...fmekcklikpoeel

Jack27 12-18-2020 12:16 AM

I saw Jon post that a behind the scenes video of the Christmas songs is on the experience....but I can’t see it. Am I missing something?

Rdkopper 12-18-2020 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1271368)
Ok, got it to work. Just install Vimeo video downloader for Chrome and then go the the site and you'll see a download icon in the upper right corner of the videos. Click that and a menu pops up with the available resolutions. The christmas songs are 720p, but Shine & Luv Can is actually 1080p. Nice :)

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...fmekcklikpoeel

Awesome!!!

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Litneg 12-18-2020 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack27 (Post 1271371)
I saw Jon post that a behind the scenes video of the Christmas songs is on the experience....but I can’t see it. Am I missing something?

Funny, the video he posted on if is the rehearsal of Fairytale.
:mrgreen:

Captain_jovi 12-18-2020 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack27 (Post 1271371)
I saw Jon post that a behind the scenes video of the Christmas songs is on the experience....but I can’t see it. Am I missing something?

He posted a quick behind the scenes thing on Instagram saying to go to the Experience for the actual performances unless a misunderstood?

YOVANAfromPeru 12-18-2020 02:07 AM

"BTS warming up for A Jon Bon Jovi Christmas. Watch the full video now on the JBJ Experience and check out the songs, streaming everywhere"
I can't see the "BTS warming" video, either.

Captain_jovi 12-18-2020 02:21 AM

It's the caption for the Behind the Scenes video we're all watching, telling people to go watch the full videos on the site. The full videos = the performances. Right?

YOVANAfromPeru 12-18-2020 02:32 AM

It's a fallacy.

Jack27 12-18-2020 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru (Post 1271377)
"BTS warming up for A Jon Bon Jovi Christmas. Watch the full video now on the JBJ Experience and check out the songs, streaming everywhere"
I can't see the "BTS warming" video, either.

Yeah to me this definitely says the full video of the BTS warming up is on the experience. Maybe it’s just poorly written and is supposed to mean full videos of the actual performances are on the experience

jovifan93 12-18-2020 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack27 (Post 1271382)
Yeah to me this definitely says the full video of the BTS warming up is on the experience. Maybe it’s just poorly written and is supposed to mean full videos of the actual performances are on the experience

To me it says were seeingh im warming up BTS and we can check out the full performance of "A Jon Bon Jovi Christmas" on the experience, and the songs are streaming everywhere.

Jack27 12-18-2020 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1271384)
To me it says were seeingh im warming up BTS and we can check out the full performance of "A Jon Bon Jovi Christmas" on the experience, and the songs are streaming everywhere.

I'd think that if it said "BTS warming up for A Jon Bon Jovi Christmas. Watch the full videos now on the JBJ Experience and check out the songs, streaming everywhere"

But it specifies video - not videos - there's 3 videos.

"BTS warming up for A Jon Bon Jovi Christmas. Watch the full video now on the JBJ Experience and check out the songs, streaming everywhere"

Also why plug the videoS with a 10 second clip of them warming up BTS? Wouldn't they just put a clip of one of the videos?

Jack27 12-18-2020 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack27 (Post 1271396)
I'd think that if it said "BTS warming up for A Jon Bon Jovi Christmas. Watch the full videos now on the JBJ Experience and check out the songs, streaming everywhere"

But it specifies video - not videos - there's 3 videos.

"BTS warming up for A Jon Bon Jovi Christmas. Watch the full video now on the JBJ Experience and check out the songs, streaming everywhere"

Also why plug the videoS with a 10 second clip of them warming up BTS? Wouldn't they just put a clip of one of the videos?

ALSO on the main page of The Experience it says in red "2 Additional New Videos Just Posted! View in Exclusive Videos!"

What are those 2 videos? The Christmas songs are 3 videos

Captain_jovi 12-18-2020 07:05 PM

I just think you're overthinking this one.

rolo_tomachi 12-18-2020 07:47 PM

Well, now what will be the next step of JBJ Experience ...

Captain_jovi 12-18-2020 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rolo_tomachi (Post 1271399)
Well, now what will be the next step of JBJ Experience ...

Another box in 3 months and hopefully better online content.

YOVANAfromPeru 12-19-2020 02:54 AM

Well... I gotta say that's a nice picture of Jon
https://www.instagram.com/p/CI9W6DWnyNh/?

jovifan93 12-20-2020 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack27 (Post 1271397)
ALSO on the main page of The Experience it says in red "2 Additional New Videos Just Posted! View in Exclusive Videos!"

What are those 2 videos? The Christmas songs are 3 videos

I thought the 2 new videos are the Shine & Luv Can readded, but then that's one video, now that I think about it, or isn't it?

jimmyjovi89 12-20-2020 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jovifan93 (Post 1271416)
I thought the 2 new videos are the Shine & Luv Can readded, but then that's one video, now that I think about it, or isn't it?

It’s because Fairytale is on the main page, the other two videos are the other two Xmas songs.

Rdkopper 12-21-2020 07:23 PM

I joined this Silver thing a month ago and I feel like I've received anything... Those few things we received were nothing worthy of any value and should have gone straight to YouTube instead of being on Exclusive...

Really... A fan interview, three Christmas Videos with the KOS, and Luv Can and Shine... For 80 Bucks... Are you fuxkinng serious...

If I don't receive anything worthy within the next two weeks, I'm calling my Credit Card and reporting this as Fraud.

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Captain_jovi 12-21-2020 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1271437)
I joined this Silver thing a month ago and I feel like I've received anything... Those few things we received were nothing worthy of any value and should have gone straight to YouTube instead of being on Exclusive...

Really... A fan interview, three Christmas Videos with the KOS, and Luv Can and Shine... For 80 Bucks... Are you fuxkinng serious...

If I don't receive anything worthy within the next two weeks, I'm calling my Credit Card and reporting this as Fraud.

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How is it.....fraud?

rolo_tomachi 12-21-2020 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1271437)
I joined this Silver thing a month ago and I feel like I've received anything... Those few things we received were nothing worthy of any value and should have gone straight to YouTube instead of being on Exclusive...

Really... A fan interview, three Christmas Videos with the KOS, and Luv Can and Shine... For 80 Bucks... Are you fuxkinng serious...

If I don't receive anything worthy within the next two weeks, I'm calling my Credit Card and reporting this as Fraud.

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Patience, this is going to last a year, if in the teaser we saw some shows I am sure we will get them, and surely some tracks never heard before. I agree in part of what you says, so far, everything we have obtained could easily have been published on the official YouTube channel.

But this is only the beginning... the good is yet to come, I think.

Rdkopper 12-21-2020 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1271438)
How is it.....fraud?

All this material was mentioned from unreleased songs to shows and we aren't getting any of that. They showed a room stacked from floor to ceiling and I haven't received any of that either.

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Thinny 12-21-2020 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper (Post 1271440)
All this material was mentioned from unreleased songs to shows and we aren't getting any of that. They showed a room stacked from floor to ceiling and I haven't received any of that either.

You've been a member for a month. The 80 bucks is for a year.
They didn't say that you would get all of that stuff in the first month. Ever. So it's clearly not fraud at this stage.
:rolleyes:

Captain_jovi 12-21-2020 08:02 PM

You haven't received anything seen in a photo in the first month out of the twelve and are calling that fraud? That isn't even close to what fraud is. There was nothing legally binding saying you would get that over the first period, or even at all!

Not liking what they put put 30 days in? Sure, I get that. They blew it when things they posted went public. I could see cancelling over that. But this isn't fraud. It's expecting too much too soon.


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