nasvhille, tn 2-14-03 cds for trade
 

will trade these cds ONLY for other BJ cds of KNOWN source (i.e. known mics/recording deck, known analog/digital generation, etc.).

i do not want MP3-sourced stuff, or outtakes/demos (i already have a 25 cd set of outtakes/demos/etc. with everything pre-Bounce).

e-me with any offers at: h_vargas_2001@yahoo.com .

Jovian wrote:

>A hardcore collector then, huh? How many other good-quality boots do >you have then in addition to this Nashville show? [/color]

i have tons of good quality boots other than the BJ / Nash. show.[/color]


>I've heard rumours about these real hc collectors who only trade >amongs themselves cause they don't want to share their stuff or get >any "regular" boots in return... Are you by any chance one of them?

i only trade for known-sourced stuff, if that's what you mean. if a show is taped and then there are 10 different sources of it, i want to know what the source info is for the version(s) that i get so that i don't end up getting the same version again by mistake. plus, if there's a version of a show recorded from the analog/digital master onto CDR, then i'd generally rather have that than a CDR copy from unknown generation analog tapes filled with hiss. if my keeping up with info about the shows i collect classifies me as a "hardcore (a.k.a. 'hc') trader," fine, that's what i am. i try to get the best quality possible in the first place, instead of sub-par quality copies and keep on trading 3-5 times for the same show to get a decent version.


>With my +15 years old stereo set it really doesn't matter one bit if the >songs have been mp3s in between or if they're a first generation copy of >a digital master recording...

maybe it's time for a new sound system. (not trying to rip on your equipment), but to quote someone else on a different message board: "i hear huge differences between my masters and mp3 copies.

i didn't spend the $$ i did on recording gear so someone could butcher
the recording by MP3ing it." (- Scott Brown)


>The only thing that matters to me is whether the recording is >soundboard or audience, and if it's audience, is it a good one or a bad >one. Everything else is meaningless, LOL.

that's fine for you. as i said before, i want the best quality/version possible, and i do not have time and do not want to waste time on inferior copies. in many/most trading circles, MP3-sourced stuff is a no-no. the only reason i mentioned it is because it seems that the "Bon Jovi trading community" here seems big on trading MP3 stuff, and i want quality not compressed crap.

i'll again quote Scott Brown (from another message board): "if you want to MP3 my shows, then i just won't spread my future shows. you can't mp3 what you don't have.

that simple."

not trying to be mean... i don't want my stuff on ebay being sold by some jerk who downloaded MP3s of it. i've seen that type of thing happen all too often.

MP3s are fine for a sound sample, but the quality is definitely not as good as pure sources. that's a fact. MP3s kill the highend on recordings and i'm not keen on getting crappy-sounding MP3 stuff.

You mean tons of other Bon Jovi boots? Got a list online somewhere? 8)

Hmmm yeah, that sounds very sensible and reasonable actually. I'd like to know the sources too, but in like 99% of the cases it's too much hassle to try and find it out.

I'd love to get the best versions right away too... But the problem is, I don't have any known-source stuff to trade back. And since I've heard that most of these "hard core collectors" don't trade for empty CD-Rs or sell copies of their boots at cost price (you know, $ or € 5 per show max), it seems that most of us regular collectors are stuck with the sub-par stuff. :(

If I had the money, I would've done so ages ago. :roll: But to me, going to shows in person is more important than getting the perfect Dolby Surround sound system and the latest technical gadgets and whatnot for my bootlegs... I don't even own a DVD player yet, even tho I got a bunch of Jovi DVDs waiting to be watched. :oops: So I guess I'm stuck with my ancient entertainment centre for now...

I believe you do. And believe me, I'd love to get those non-mp3ed first generation copies of the digital master boots. But when you don't have anything to trade back, you're stuck with what you have. :?

Yeah, I've heard about that. And I believe that most of my roughly 200 or so Jovi boots are not taken from mp3s, they're just NNth generation CD-R copies of the digital or analogue masters. Some of them might have originally been either on cassettes or on vinyls, but I can't say that for sure.

Ok, feel free to call me stupid... But who's Scott Brown?