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Penrose 03-24-2003 06:10 AM

It is a crime (the Oscars)
 
that Daniel Day Lewis didn't win the Oscar, instead it went to someone from that penis film whose director is a sex offender.

Mike McRock 03-24-2003 11:19 AM

Re: It is a crime (the Oscars)
 
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Originally Posted by Penrose
that Daniel Day Lewis didn't win the Oscar, instead it went to someone from that penis film whose director is a sex offender.

You don't know what youi're talking about. a) Pelansky is a great director, who obviously you don't want to congratulate on his sex offences, but did have his family horrifically murdered, and had lived throught the gettoes in Poland. He's had an amazing life, and is an incredible director.....

Have you seen the pianist. It's an incredibly film, by far the best I've seen since Venila Sky! His performance (I forget his name too) was touching, and absolutely spot on. He deserved the oscar for that performance. Also, his acceptance speach was increadibly moving. I don't think I've seen somebody in tears not through emotino of winning, but through true understanding, and dismay over the war that is going on.

jess 03-24-2003 11:22 AM

yes, i'm a bit disapointed too, but the man deserved it too :?

Mike McRock 03-24-2003 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jess
yes, i'm a bit disapointed too, but the man deserved it too :?

So did Scoursesi for director, as he's never been given one either. To be honest, I thought the Two Towers was directed fantastically as well, and was a very fluid, and exciting 3 hours, a mark of a well directed film.....

Mongoose 03-24-2003 11:34 AM

Pianist was overly sentimental, he failed to avoid the usual traps that directors fall into when making films on that subject

Mike McRock 03-24-2003 11:56 AM

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Pianist was overly sentimental, he failed to avoid the usual traps that directors fall into when making films on that subject

I dont think it was. Yes, I read reviews that were saying he has nothing new to say on the subject, but the I thought, that wasn't the point of the film. It was more about looking at the actions, and holding your hands up, showing that sort of atrocity, and offering the only explenation for such mass hysteria, and persecution..... no answer.

For me the point of the film shown how cruel, and inhumane people can be. How somebody's life, feelings can be completely discarded, and they're treated as less than animals. One of the most disturbing scenes was when German soldiers came into the getto, taking away the family on the top floor, and throwing the man in a wheelchair out of the window, as he's not needed. I thought it was a great film for showing this, and pushing the importance of tollerance, and understanding of people. Also, allowing people to live, and giving them that respect.

What the film also did by not seeking answeres to questions, was highlighted the dispair, and lack of understanding the the persecuted Jews had! When you see them being selected at random, told to lie down on the floor, as they shoot them in the head one by one, you just depair. There is no explenation, try getting into that mans head, how was he selecting them? This was such a powerful point for me.

Also, I think the sentimental element of the film was important. Pelanski lived through it, and wanted to relay his own experiances through a different story, I think he did this masterfully.

The film was a huge triumph, and I'm glad it's recieved the credit it deserves. It was only released on selected release over here, but after the first few months, and oscar nomination it got to general release. Art like that speaks for itself, and doesn't need the Hollywood glits to make it popular, or sucessful.

Penrose 03-24-2003 07:20 PM

Re: It is a crime (the Oscars)
 
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Originally Posted by Mike McRock
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Originally Posted by Penrose
that Daniel Day Lewis didn't win the Oscar, instead it went to someone from that penis film whose director is a sex offender.

Pelansky is a great director, who obviously you don't want to congratulate on his sex offences, but did have his family horrifically murdered, and had lived throught the gettoes in Poland.

Oh, I didn't consider that. I guess that makes his paedophilia okay then.

Tixy 03-24-2003 07:29 PM

Actor's name is Adrian Brody.

Mike McRock 03-24-2003 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tixy
Actor's name is Adrian Brody.

I should have remembered that :oops:

Mike McRock 03-24-2003 08:12 PM

Re: It is a crime (the Oscars)
 
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Originally Posted by Penrose
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Originally Posted by Mike McRock
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Originally Posted by Penrose
that Daniel Day Lewis didn't win the Oscar, instead it went to someone from that penis film whose director is a sex offender.

Pelansky is a great director, who obviously you don't want to congratulate on his sex offences, but did have his family horrifically murdered, and had lived throught the gettoes in Poland.

Oh, I didn't consider that. I guess that makes his c okay then.

I detect sarcasm :? However, I think you're just closing your mind to something. I'm not saying by any stretch of the imagination paedophilia is in any way ok, I work with children myself, and the thought of it makes me sick. However, he did have a tough life, has had a lot to deal with, and certainy had something to say through his own experiances in Poland, which made the film as powerful as it was. He's a director, which is art. Can't you apreciate art on face value, sure, his achievements will always be overshaddowed by this, but giving him the oscer was a powerful statement. Hollywood is overcrowded by buisness men, who want to make blockbuster. The fact that the achademy recognised a true artist, who is doing something special thorugh his work, is comendable.

If he was making a film about a child who is abused it woudl be completely different, the issue isn't suggested, or involved in the film in any way whatsoever. His art is coming through his tallent, and his experiances in Poland, and dealing with tragedy......


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