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Mousebounce 03-25-2003 01:30 PM

Oscars should be done away with?
 
Don't you think it is a bit overrated for these celebrities to get together and pat themselves on the back?

Heppinen 03-25-2003 02:05 PM

Yeap, definitely. I think I could bear with that oscars were given on a couple times in 10 years. Every fourth year?

And there is so much politics behind them too.. :mad:

Iceman 03-25-2003 02:29 PM

This year especially it seemed like they'd ran out of both good films and decent people... No personality, except for Michael Moore and even he got boo's and orchestra started playing on top of his speech... If they didn't want people to speak their minds, they shouldn't have organized the award show at all.

Ice

Mousebounce 03-25-2003 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman
This year especially it seemed like they'd ran out of both good films and decent people... No personality, except for Michael Moore and even he got boo's and orchestra started playing on top of his speech... If they didn't want people to speak their minds, they shouldn't have organized the award show at all.

Ice

What did he say Ice? I refused to watch it this year. :D

Mike McRock 03-25-2003 03:22 PM

Fair point, but then I don't think they were booing bringing politics into it, more booing his view point, i.e what he was saying. When you raise such a controversial issue, you are going to get that sort of a reaction, there were people clapping him as well, so there was some ballance.

As for the poor films, I'd disagree. I think the Pianist is a brilliant film, worth of best pic in any year. As far as I'm awear from critics GONY was very good, controversial in some areas, but still very good, well directed, and well acted, particularly by Daniel Day Lewis. The Two Towers was really really good, such a spectacular film, well directed, and just a superb piece of cinema. I didn't see Chicargo, didn't see the apeal of it, but it was different, and it seems a lot of peopel really did like it. I didn't see Jack Nicholsons film either, but people have told me it was really good, and it got an extremely good review on news night!

In terms of decent people, I thought Adrian Broody's acceptance speach was heartfelt, and came across as a decent guy. Similarly I thought Nichole Kidman came across ok..... The Oscars is about sentimental things like that, saying thank you, tears e.t.c.

I think the Oscars is ok, and should carry on. I don't think it's seen as nessesarily THAT important for most actors. I'm sure Pacino knows his performance in the Godfather, Serpico, Scarface, and Donnie Brasco were much more memerable than the film he did win an Oscar for (was it called Sea of Love? the one where he's blind). I'm sure it's nice to win, but I think it's only really important for those who are young, or those who are aspiring. If Jack Nicholson had won, I doubt it would have been too big a thing for him, he's a legend, and doesn't need the award to get scripts. For people like Hally Berry, it has made her a more sort after actress, and has boosted her carear. What's nice about the Oscars, is that it does bring some recognition to people, and make less blockbuster type films (i.e the Pianist was released over here on selected release) get the credit, and attention they deserve. I think it's also quite a nice tradition, where it isn't life or death for most of the people involved. . . . . Politics is involved, but it is in anything where there is a judge. The European song Contest is the best example..... but even things like Diving tournaments I'm sure have some level of politics in them.....

I also think people are still interested.... I'm not bothered at the end of the day who wins or not, but I'm interested, and I was still quite pleased that Adrian Broody won, as I think his performance deserved it.......

jenn1189 03-25-2003 04:21 PM

I don't think there is anything wrong with having an Oscars ceremony. Doesn't everyone like to get recognized for doing a good job??? And sometimes, it's like rooting for your favorite team to win....I love Nicole Kidman. I think she's is talented and beautiful. I was very pleased that she won this year.

Iceman 03-25-2003 08:36 PM

ACCEPTANCE SPEECH
Michael Moore: Whoa. On behalf of our producers Kathleen Glynn and Michael Donovan from Canada, I'd like to thank the Academy for this. I have invited my fellow documentary nominees on the stage with us, and we would like to — they're here in solidarity with me because we like nonfiction. We like nonfiction and we live in fictitious times. We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elects a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons. Whether it's the fictition of duct tape or fictition of orange alerts we are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush, shame on you. And any time you got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up. Thank you very much.



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Originally Posted by Mike McRock
Fair point, but then I don't think they were booing bringing politics into it, more booing his view point, i.e what he was saying.

He was saying that Bush is wrong. I don't think there's much chance of anyone misintrepeting it. They booed because they didn't agree => they think Bush is right.


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The Two Towers was really really good, such a spectacular film, well directed, and just a superb piece of cinema.
I think it wasn't nearly as good as the first one. This time around the story was too varied, they didn't allow it to develop, too much jumping from one place to another. Plus they altered the story more than necessary. I hope the third will be better.


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I'm sure Pacino knows his performance in the Godfather, Serpico, Scarface, and Donnie Brasco were much more memerable than the film he did win an Oscar for (was it called Sea of Love? the one where he's blind).
The Scent of a Woman. And I actually thought he was very good in it.


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For people like Hally Berry, it has made her a more sort after actress, and has boosted her carear.
As good as Berry was, I think it was more of a "colored" Oscar. Berry was just in the right place at the right time. She's good, but this Oscar was just a way of "making it okay". They hadn't given an Oscar to any african-american woman so they had to fix it.

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What's nice about the Oscars, is that it does bring some recognition to people, and make less blockbuster type films (i.e the Pianist was released over here on selected release) get the credit, and attention they deserve.
It hardly ever happens though.

I think the Oscars are a nice tradition, but it's been going downhill for the last few years. They should really liven it up a bit, cut all the rules and regulations and get some action into the show. There's no element of surprise in it anymore.

Ice

Thomas Anderson 03-25-2003 09:28 PM

Re: Oscars should be done away with?
 
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Originally Posted by Mousebounce
Don't you think it is a bit overrated for these celebrities to get together and pat themselves on the back?

If you don't like it, don't watch it. I didn't bother watching the whole thing, but I watched the highlights show. I know they can go on a little, but how do you think they where patting themselves on the back. The academy picks the awards, and even though I don't like movies like Chicago (any musical in fact) or The Pianist, I still understand that they can have great actors, or other people can like them.

I saw Gangs Of New York though, and I think Daniel Day Lewis should have won best actor for that. Maybe Two Towers should have got best movie too.

I think that The Return Of The King will clean up next year though, and by the sounds of how good it will be, it will probably deserve it. Also, I would love to see Star Wars Episode III get loads of oscars when that is released.

Mike 03-25-2003 09:30 PM

Its always Been Cheesy!!!

jess 03-25-2003 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike
Its always Been Cheesy!!!

like all these ceremonies :x


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