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allmike 03-31-2003 12:06 PM

Boy Band who suck little less?.
 
I think of one name i can think of is 'Take that', they were in the era where not many boy bands were there. After they split only many boy band like 'Boy zone', 'Backstreet Boys', 'west life' and many many more came to seen. They have very deccent tracklist.
What u think?.

jess 03-31-2003 12:13 PM

You know what i think about Ronan Keating, i love his voice :)
And i know you're gonna be about 100 to say he's nothing but ****, if Ro wasn't in competition i'd say Take That, because even if we don't like these sort of bands, one thing is sure, Robbie Williams knows how to do his job !!

JoviGirl 03-31-2003 12:48 PM

NSYNC.

I think they'll outlast the competition. Although having the marionette dolls was a poor decision by marketing.

Sambo-Chris 03-31-2003 12:52 PM

Aren't all these boybands marionette dolls of the record company?

JoviGirl 03-31-2003 01:36 PM

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Aren't all these boybands marionette dolls of the record company?

Ultimately, yes. I believe the record company has to approve the idea due to the fact that they basically own the rights to their name.

eriK 03-31-2003 01:52 PM

they all suck! that is a fact. they don't have a will of ther own, they just follow what the producer and the record company says. thats probably why none of them will be around for 20 years (or more).

JoviGirl 03-31-2003 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by eriK
they all suck! that is a fact. they don't have a will of ther own, they just follow what the producer and the record company says. thats probably why none of them will be around for 20 years (or more).

And you know this for a fact because how?

It's not just boybands who follow what the record company tells them to do. I would say 90% of artists do so in the beginning of their careers. BSB and nsync made some major decisions in their careers after the success happened. Such as leaving their manager, hiring their own people, suing JIVE for record contract disputes, etc.
Sometimes it takes success to happen before doors are opened for you to have any control.

jess 03-31-2003 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JoviGirl
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Originally Posted by eriK
they all suck! that is a fact. they don't have a will of ther own, they just follow what the producer and the record company says. thats probably why none of them will be around for 20 years (or more).

And you know this for a fact because how?

It's not just boybands who follow what the record company tells them to do. I would say 90% of artists do so in the beginning of their careers. BSB and nsync made some major decisions in their careers after the success happened. Such as leaving their manager, hiring their own people, suing JIVE for record contract disputes, etc.
Sometimes it takes success to happen before doors are opened for you to have any control.

you're right Naomi, but so much people just ignore this ... they don't know because they are not in this "strange world" i could say ! they think they know everything about record compagnies, management and etc ... ! sure, you know it's not so simple ! :wink:

eriK 03-31-2003 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JoviGirl
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Originally Posted by eriK
they all suck! that is a fact. they don't have a will of ther own, they just follow what the producer and the record company says. thats probably why none of them will be around for 20 years (or more).

And you know this for a fact because how?

It's not just boybands who follow what the record company tells them to do. I would say 90% of artists do so in the beginning of their careers. BSB and nsync made some major decisions in their careers after the success happened. Such as leaving their manager, hiring their own people, suing JIVE for record contract disputes, etc.
Sometimes it takes success to happen before doors are opened for you to have any control.

I don't know this I assume this. I Think its very strange that they all sound the same (they do!, you seems to know quite a lot about boy bands, so you probably know this as well) , they all uses the same producer (almost every one has used Max martin, not take that, but the rest...), they all LOOK the same, you don't find this strange? well I do...

suing a record company is not something that shows that these bands are independent. I think it means the opposite, when (who ever it was who did it!) suide the recordcompany they probably discovered that the record company had been bamboozled them! so...

boy bands are a pain! thats a fact, I don't like them, will never like them, and they aren't real musician!

JoviGirl 03-31-2003 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by eriK
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Originally Posted by JoviGirl
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Originally Posted by eriK
they all suck! that is a fact. they don't have a will of ther own, they just follow what the producer and the record company says. thats probably why none of them will be around for 20 years (or more).

And you know this for a fact because how?

It's not just boybands who follow what the record company tells them to do. I would say 90% of artists do so in the beginning of their careers. BSB and nsync made some major decisions in their careers after the success happened. Such as leaving their manager, hiring their own people, suing JIVE for record contract disputes, etc.
Sometimes it takes success to happen before doors are opened for you to have any control.

I don't know this I assume this. I Think its very strange that they all sound the same (they do!, you seems to know quite a lot about boy bands, so you probably know this as well) , they all uses the same producer (almost every one has used Max martin, not take that, but the rest...), they all LOOK the same, you don't find this strange? well I do...

suing a record company is not something that shows that these bands are independent. I think it means the opposite, when (who ever it was who did it!) suide the recordcompany they probably discovered that the record company had been bamboozled them! so...

boy bands are a pain! thats a fact, I don't like them, will never like them, and they aren't real musician!

you have a very good and valid point. But no, I do not see them as all the same. You're right about the Max Martin thing. He is a well known pop writer that creates incredible hooks. That's why pop singers go to him. He's the flavour of the moment.
Artists go to certain producers for their special brand of sound. i.e. every hot artist seems to be going to the Neptunes/Pharell Williams for their production because they have a hot sound and they are "in" thing. I'm sure Bon Jovi go to Luke Ebbin because they like what he does for the band (but I am NOT going to open that can of worms!) ;)

If anyone wants a record contract, they WILL do what is told of them. If they didn't, they'd be out on the streets faster than you can blink. Once they've sold a few million CD's, that's when the story changes.

As for sounding the same, Justin Timberlake does not sound like Ronan Keating to me. Not even look alike. So I guess because Bon Jovi and Aerosmith are both rock bands, they sound and look the same? Unlikely.

Thanks for engaging in this debate with me! ;)


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