[B.J. Always]

Originally Posted by JoviForever

I think the British sense of humour is pretty unique and anything outside of it we struggle with.😆

There is definitely a big difference in British and US humor. We even spell the word differently

[Rdkopper]

Dave and his daughter's podcasts are hysterical and entertaining. She is very quick with her humor and I like when she makes him uncomfortable.

Dave's voice is horrible and I can't stand listening to him sing.

[Talking In Your Sleep]

I was wondering why David Bryan was only allowed to be a songwriter on the first two albums. We got "Love Lies" and "Breakout" from the debut (1984). And "Only Lonely", "The Hardest Part Is the Night" and "To the Fire" from 7800° Fahrenheit (1985).

After that he was basicly done, apart from "In These Arms" (1992) and "Last Cigarette" (2005).

So credits for several songs on the first two albums and then suddenly not much input anymore. Anyone any idea what caused this? I know Jon and Richie became a better songwriting team after the first two albums, but why neglect Davids ideas? The songs he co-wrote were really cool.

[Sami]

Originally Posted by Talking In Your Sleep

I was wondering why David Bryan was only allowed to be a songwriter on the first two albums. We got "Love Lies" and "Breakout" from the debut (1984). And "Only Lonely", "The Hardest Part Is the Night" and "To the Fire" from 7800° Fahrenheit (1985).

After that he was basicly done apart from "In These Arms" (1992) and "Last Cigarette" (2005).

So credits for several songs on the first two albums and then suddenly not much input anymore. Anyone any idea what caused this? I know Jon and Richie became a better songwriting team after the first two albums, but why neglect Davids ideas? The songs he co-wrote were really cool.

I remember reading an interview with Jon ages ago where he commented the dynamics of their songwriting partnership.

He said David is a very talented guy but their chemistries didn’t blend in too well when writing together. It was only when he started to write with Richie that he realized he had found the perfect cowriter.

Haven’t seen the actual interview, though. Just an article on some magazine. So this may not be 100% coming from Jon’s mouth.

[Talking In Your Sleep]

Originally Posted by Sami

He said David is a very talented guy but their chemistries didn’t blend in too well when writing together. It was only when he started to write with Richie that he realized he had found the perfect cowriter.

I thought writing with Richie had something to do with it and it make sense. Slippery and New Jersey were next level. But still, a track like Love Lies is amazing.

[Faceman]

Well, just talking about In These Arms here.
The song David and Jon wrote together, called Water Into Wine, was a very weak one. It wasn't until Richie came in with an unused solo-title called If You Were In These Arms Tonight, that made the song great.
So if the dynamics were that way, it is understandable, that Dave wasn't involved in too many songwritings for the band.

[bonjovi90]

There chemistry as songwriters just didn't match. I think they both had more or less stated that at one point or another in their career. IIRC even Last Cigarette was more of Jon giving him a co-write since he was going through a real rough time back then rather than him having had much input on the song.

[JoDuPree]

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[jazzsta]

When she comes and The End are also 2 songs where he s credited with cowrites iirc and I find those pretty cool. So during TD era they also attempted some new stuff with him.

[Butters]

Originally Posted by bonjovi90

There chemistry as songwriters just didn't match. I think they both had more or less stated that at one point or another in their career. IIRC even Last Cigarette was more of Jon giving him a co-write since he was going through a real rough time back then rather than him having had much input on the song.

Jon was in major dick mode when he talked about this. He said Dave "was in the room" when he wrote that song. He made it very clear Dave had nothing to do with creating the song.