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Originally Posted by TheseDays2005
again if god excist then satan is the better one. Think every 5 seconds to a child dying to poverty.
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Yeah, let's see... I hate religious debate because no one can explain anything to anyone without the one person completely ignoring everything the other says. I'll bring up two things though...
Which God? Jews, Muslims and Christian's believe in the same God, the God of Abraham, as they all refer to Him. Some Christians (not all denominations) believe that Jesus is the Son of God. Trinity is still highly debated between all these Christian denominations but they agree that Jesus has God's authority and that the Earth was created through Jesus. Think of it this way, God gave Jesus the tools and he went and made a planet. Bible says it was done in seven days but the Bible also says that God is eternal and that he has no "concept of time", so to speak. So, to God, one day can be one day or a million or billion years. So seven days can equal seven billions years to God... Most Christians take this literally as seven days but many, including myself, don't. I believe Earth has always hosted life, hence Dinosaurs and stuff and then when it went dead, God created it into a place for his new species, humans. Either way, I could care less about the origins of Earth and creation, it doesn't change the fact that I have to pay my billes every other week.
Jews don't believe in Jesus and Muslims accepted Him only as a prophet but not Son of God. Quran is basically made up of Biblical books with few added texts from Mohammed. You ask which God, there is only one and the problem with humans is that we can't ever agree on anything (hence LH vs. These Days) and our ancestors created religion to get people to believe what they want them to believe. Worshipping God is not "hard", there are no billion rules like some Churches want you to believe, it's just a matter of do you believe in Him or not, we were given a choice.... which brings me to the next point.
Why the suffering? Lucifer (Satan) was an angel who rebeled against God because he didn't understand why he had to serve and not be free to do what he wants. God created Earth as a result and threw the rebels down, then he created man and gave us a choice to prove Satan wrong and show him that nothing can be done without faith in God. We got the choice that Satan wasn't given. God told Adam and Eve to choose Him and live in paradise for all eternity.. or taste the fruit and take the matter into their own hands. So, Adam and Eve sinned and humanity chose it's own way over God's way. So, when someone asks why the suffering in the world, I say it's because we choose to run this world our own way and from the way the news headlines are looking these days, we are not suited to run this, or any world. We will never achieve world peace. We will never prosper. We will most likely self destruct. God told Adam that his job is to populate Earth and thrive... But the modern man's job is to opress every other human and milk them for all they've got. It's been that way since dawn of time and it will never change. Or it wouldn't change hadn't Christ said he'd be back to fix it. So who will you trust? I trust in Him to come back and fix it cause I know we never will... and I just love having hope that something better will come some sunny day. Otherwise, what's the point to living?
11-13-2007, 01:56 AM
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