[bonjovi90]

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

Yah but how is saying "I left to spend time with my family" any less of the same to cover up the actual reason?

He's said that the other band members have been guilty of that too. With Jon, we just notice it more because he's the one constantly in the spotlight in terms of band activities. But they all change their stories to how they just fit themselves in the given moment.

[Thinny]

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

Yah but how is saying "I left to spend time with my family" any less of the same to cover up the actual reason?

It's not. As I said, the other band members do it too, just to a lesser extent. Richie included.

[Captain_jovi]

Sorry guys, I took it to mean guys currently in the band and assumed it was about Hugh and David saying they hadn't seen Richie when they had. My bad!

[Thinny]

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

Sorry guys, I took it to mean guys currently in the band and assumed it was about Hugh and David saying they hadn't seen Richie when they had. My bad!

Sorry, yeah when I refer to band members I'm really referring to Jon, Dave, Tico and Richie. They will always be "the band" to me (along with with either Alec or Hugh)

[YOVANAfromPeru]

Originally Posted by Thinny

when I refer to band members I'm really referring to Jon, Dave, Tico and Richie. They will always be "the band" to me (along with with either Alec or Hugh)

Obviously!!!
Same to me

[JackieBlue]

Originally Posted by YOVANAfromPeru

lol, So there was a rehearsal the day before, Richie didn’t show up but he called to say: “I’d like to come up on the day of the show to get my daughter home and unpack” JBJ said: “Yeah, sure.”...

The only "missed" rehearsal I know about is the one in January, 2013. AFAIK, all Jon has said about the day before Calgary is that he and the band flew in a day early because it was a long flight and Richie wanted to fly in from CA on the day of the show.

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

And just because Jon and Richie didn't speak doesn't mean Richie and the band's lawyers didn't...

I agree 100%. But I seriously doubt that Richie's lawyers would have told Jon or his lawyers that Richie had fallen off the wagon and was too messed up to get on the plane.

I repeat: acording to everything I've heard from Jon, the last time he saw Richie was in Lubbock where Richie seemed to be in fine shape. He apparently didn't pick up on any clues during the phone call from Richie about flying in on the day of; or, surely, if he had, he would have already had Phil on stand-by. So the question stands: how do Jon and David know, for a fact, what Richie's "personal issue" was?

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

Yah but how is saying "I left to spend time with my family" any less of the same to cover up the actual reason?

It isn't. But the difference I see is that 1) Richie's smokescreen didn't throw anybody under a bus; and 2) he hasn't contradicted himself seven ways from sundown in retelling it. If Jon had just stuck to his original script of "he didn't show up due to personal reasons and that's Richie's story to tell" we probably wouldn't be having this conversation.


As I said earlier, if Heather was acting out in 2013, like she has been for the last few years, it's possible that Ava was the reason he didn't show up. But under those circumstances, I'd like to think that Richie could have felt comfortable telling Jon why, and that Jon would have been more sympathetic. That, along with Richie's comments in his first interview, makes me inclined to think that Ava/family was a safe fallback to answer questions without getting into band business.

[Captain_jovi]

Fair, yeah. The drug stuff might not have come from the lawyer but Takumi remained on the tour for a long while after Richie left. For all we know that could have been one of people that worked with Richie the closest that tipped the band off about that stuff.

" 2) he hasn't contradicted himself seven ways from sundown in retelling it. If Jon had just stuck to his original script of "he didn't show up due to personal reasons and that's Richie's story to tell" we probably wouldn't be having this conversation."

But how has he not? He consistently used the family line and slowly it started creeping in that he doesn't air dirty laundry about the band and him and Jon not seeing eye to eye and little things here and there. That's pretty much the same as constantly changing the reason he left.

Somethings iffy with the timeline and maybe it was Heather and Co. but if it was completely Heather and Co you'd think people would have come out and used that as a big reason he had to go.

[Thinny]

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

But how has he not? He consistently used the family line and slowly it started creeping in that he doesn't air dirty laundry about the band and him and Jon not seeing eye to eye and little things here and there. That's pretty much the same as constantly changing the reason he left.

To be fair, he's remained pretty consistant that his daughter needed him too. He's been fairly vocal about the band working too much, and keeping him away from Ava all along. I know it's a thin cover up, but honestly I think that there were lots of reasons this happened. Some big, some small. It just all came to a head that night for some reason that we'll never know...

[YOVANAfromPeru]

I find easier to think it was alcohol, ‘cause one of the first things we all here would do when go on vacations is drink, but I guess we wouldn’t drink too much if “we had a 100-show commitment.”

However, tomorrow Richie has a show and let’s hope there’s a whole lot of nothing of alcohol.

[Eveline]

https://twitter.com/PointBoroHS/stat...87042332082177

Finally a new vid with Richie rehearsing before the show tomorrow!