[symbeline]

Originally Posted by Captmorgs

This place is so funny. Reactions ranging from ?Jon sounded decent for today?s standards, stronger than the last leg? to ?patchy, weak, terrible?. And everything in between.

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That's the point. They can charge as much as they want, but the show they are offering is extremely poor for that money. For any kind of money. Everything is dull, boring and average.

And no, dropping the prices wouldn't solve the problem. You can choose if you want to go, you can even go and enjoy with no expectations, but that's beyond the point. This is a very expensive BJ cover band. If Jon could be the frontman he's supposed to be there could be a new argument instead of the same we've been rehashing for 2 years but this won't happen and you can't stop fans from caring about the legacy, more than Jon does obviously

[james_d]

Bon Jovi Live In Tokyo 2018 - YouTube

YouTube link to the full performance if the Facebook link stops working. One thing I notice watching the whole show back is that there are too many songs I don't really care about. Also, when listening live I could guess a fair amount of the songs about to be played, at least in the middle of the set. I certainly enjoyed it, but hope for more tomorrow and in Australia.

[rokenrola]

Originally Posted by james_d

Bon Jovi Live In Tokyo 2018 - YouTube

YouTube link to the full performance if the Facebook link stops working. One thing I notice watching the whole show back is that there are too many songs I don't really care about. Also, when listening live I could guess a fair amount of the songs about to be played, at least in the middle of the set. I certainly enjoyed it, but hope for more tomorrow and in Australia.

Ive watched the whole show and it is good,specially for the first show. Band sound tight,great playing,Jon has ups and downs but it is listenable,from 1 to 10 I give 7.5

[Jayster]

Originally Posted by james_d

I kinda think they should drop Wanted, it's one of their harder songs to sing and was Richie's song so doesn't really fit anymore

But it's their "National Anthem"...

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[Thinny]

Originally Posted by rokenrola

Ive watched the whole show and it is good,specially for the first show. Band sound tight,great playing,Jon has ups and downs but it is listenable,from 1 to 10 I give 7.5

7.5?? Seriously...! It's 2.5 at best from me I'm afraid...

[james_d]

Originally Posted by Thinny

7.5?? Seriously...! It's 2.5 at best from me I'm afraid...

I'm assuming his 7.5 is in light of context surrounding the band etc. I refuse to believe he views this show as 7.5 within the history of all band performances.

[symbeline]

Originally Posted by bonjovi90

The problem here is that this was what made Bon Jovi special. Jon, at every point of his career, pushed himself to the absolute vocal limit to make the songs special. That's backfiring now. But what made me (and I guess many others) a fan was that Jon could deliver a song like rarely any other live. Bar some masterpieces, most songs of the band were solid to good in terms of the pure songwriting/songstructure. What made them special was that Jon could sing them in a way you even believed the most cheesy lines in there.

And, as someone pointed out, I am more concerned about him being unable to follow melody lines. He is 56, if he can't hit the very high notes, that's okay. But Who Says is a prime example of how he seems to go through hell to sing a mid-range melody. That's concerning me.



Well I guess than we have two different views here. Of course his voice is not all - in Munich 2013 it wasn't too great but the effort was fantastic. But if I pay something between 100 and 200 bucks for a show - of course I want to be pleased by the frontman. As I said - vocals are definitely not all, but I wan to feel comfortable and enjoy the music. I don't pay it so that I can go home saying "It didn't please me at all, but Jon was up there and smiling, so he was comfortable and I am good". Though some fans probably really see it that way.

Amen to all the above.

The hunger that made Bon Jovi the kick-ass band it was until 2013 is gone forever. There were tiny (very tiny) glimpses of it in the European leg of the BWC tour but in hindsight that was probably just the last dying breaths of a band that was already done before the ill-fated tour even started.

[rokenrola]

Originally Posted by james_d

I'm assuming his 7.5 is in light of context surrounding the band etc. I refuse to believe he views this show as 7.5 within the history of all band performances.

This 7.5 is for band today,it is not 7.5 in 1995,I dont compare their shows today with previous tours. I look at them today and what is good and what is bad.

[james_d]

Originally Posted by rokenrola

This 7.5 is for band today,it is not 7.5 in 1995,I dont compare their shows today with previous tours. I look at them today and what is good and what is bad.

Pretty sensible position to take, there's no point expecting the impossible

[Jayster]

Not sure if someone has already mentioned, but no We Got It Going On.... That's been a staple on the set for over a decade.

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