[Captain_jovi]

Originally Posted by nickolai

He is right to write about it, but not everyone is logical and measured. And will turn it political. BLM came off the back of this in the UK and that certainly was political.

People sometimes want to turn to music to escape the political bullshit going on around the world and, for me personally, it’s not something I need to listen to again. I’m more than aware that George Floyd was brutally murdered


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That's fair. I think I'm just tired of the last 20 years of bumper sticker material from the band and it's cool to see something of substance. It's not like the board was raving with pride and accolades over the empty-well-meaning songs from the last ten years. They're in a real damned if you do damned if you don't at this point of the career.

[Captain_jovi]

Originally Posted by nickolai

Yes I know, you’re right. But not everyone thinks like that. It’s a sad reality.


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So why SHOULD Jon cater to the people who don't think like that? If he writes to appease people specifically to have them as a fan that's twice as bad. I'd rather he go down writing and singing what he believes in then stand in the middle of the road being beige. You guys want Jon to be a rock star that speaks his mind? You have him with this one.

[nickolai]

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

That's fair. I think I'm just tired of the last 20 years of bumper sticker material from the band and it's cool to see something of substance. It's not like the board was raving with pride and accolades over the empty-well-meaning songs from the last ten years. They're in a real damned if you do damned if you don't at this point of the career.

I get it entirely. 37 years of writing music I guess it’s only so long you can write about the same stuff. It’s just not my cup of tea. I’m hoping the new album has some decent rock to it at least


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[Captain_jovi]

Originally Posted by nickolai

I get it entirely. 37 years of writing music I guess it’s only so long you can write about the same stuff. It’s just not my cup of tea. I’m hoping the new album has some decent rock to it at least


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Yeah, same boat. I don't want a full album of downers about how the world is.

[Rdkopper]

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

I just don't understand what the implication is. A man died after being pinned down for 8 minutes. People are rioting and revolting because that's not right. I don't see that as politics, it's a human injustice.

You want the truthful answer to that question!!! It's the Democrats that made it political... They turned it into a Trump thing so they could use it against him in the election. Just like the way they take every negative situation and turn it against him. That's how desperate they are. And of course, you have to believe everything the media says.

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[Captain_jovi]

Originally Posted by Rdkopper

You want the truthful answer to that question!!! It's the Democrats that made it political... They turned it into a Trump thing so they could use it against him in the election. Just like the way they take every negative situation and turn it against him. That's how desperate they are. And of course, you have to believe everything the media says.

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I love love LOVE how you turned me saying "I don't think this is about Trump" and turned it around to say that. So hell-bent on disproving a point I wasn't even making.

[Rdkopper]

Originally Posted by Captain_jovi

I love love LOVE how you turned me saying "I don't think this is about Trump" and turned it around to say that. So hell-bent on disproving a point I wasn't even making.

That's your answer to why it got political...

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[faith1985]

Originally Posted by Rdkopper

You want the truthful answer to that question!!! It's the Democrats that made it political... They turned it into a Trump thing so they could use it against him in the election. Just like the way they take every negative situation and turn it against him. That's how desperate they are. And of course, you have to believe everything the media says.

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Yes, not about Trump. It is about racism. But he should have spoken out against it but again, he was too busy talking about himself instead of showing empathy.

[Rdkopper]

Originally Posted by faith1985

Yes, not about Trump. It is about racism. But he should have spoken out against it but again, he was too busy talking about himself instead of showing empathy.

Not heartfelt enough for you? Or did you miss it because the media didn't show it?

Did you see the part where he called the Floyd family wonderful people? Did you see the part where he said justice will be served? Did you see the part where he said he's going to escalate it this from a local to a federal crime?

Such a racist that president! The media is so right. But I'm gullible so I'll just believe what the media said and ignore the actual video I just watched.

And this is why Trump will be reelected in 2020. Not because of the Russians, or the Aliens, or the Martians, or whoever else the Democrats can conjure up.

https://youtu.be/otqkKN-wdl8

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Originally Posted by Rdkopper

Not heartfelt enough for you? Or did you miss it because the media didn't show it?

Did you see the part where he called the Floyd family wonderful people? Did you see the part where he said justice will be served? Did you see the part where he said he's going to escalate it this from a local to a federal crime?

Such a racist that president! The media is so right. But I'm gullible so I'll just believe what the media said and ignore the actual video I just watched.

And this is why Trump will be reelected in 2020. Not because of the Russians, or the Aliens, or the Martians, or whoever else the Democrats can conjure up.

https://youtu.be/otqkKN-wdl8

Could you please stop bringing your Trump propaganda any time it's possible ? We're here to talk about music.

And like many here, I don't see what's political about American Reckoning, unless considering everything in life is politics.