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Old 04-15-2022, 03:50 AM
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Help me out here….understanding that the drive-in show was able to be post produced, and things like the iheart media event can be cleaned up as well, the vocal decline of this magnitude does not make sense in such a short period of time. Jon was still playing songs in the same key less than a year ago and sounding basically the same as he had the past few years. What could cause such a dramatic shift?
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Old 04-15-2022, 05:24 AM
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I have the exact same thoughts. Those promo shows got my hopes up that he could still hit those notes.
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Old 04-15-2022, 06:15 AM
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I think you may have answered your own question, that drive in performance was pure doctored up vocals when they did the final mix. Auto tune, whatever the hell they used. I'm sure Jon sounded just as bad as he does now. Same as the 2018 HOF performance. It was atrocious live, but once they edited the vocals for TV, he sounded great.
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But that doesn't explain the Hampton Wine shows and the live webcasts. To me he sounded rough but not like THIS.
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Old 04-15-2022, 08:26 AM
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The post production Means a lot

This Is ktf from this tour in soundboard and postproductedoes It sound so bad? Not at all

https://youtu.be/ZW4umv_0u18
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From my perspective Jon did sound pretty terrible during that private show they did in Nashville in October last year, it kinda set the expectation for me that there was not going to be any improvement in Jon's voice during the latest tour.

I also kinda think that the band's 3 week long rehearsals before the tour didn't do any good for Jon's voice, it probably did further damage to Jon's frail vocal cords. Jon probably pushed his voice to the limit during rehearsals because of the pressure of not being onstage in public for the last 2 years.

Honestly nobody will really knows because this is the reality we face, Jon's voice seems to be becoming weaker and weaker by the year.
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I feel like he's forgot how to act on stage. Whether it's age or not, he doesn't even seem 'cool' anymore. He's always been cringe but a lot of stuff he got away with. It's like he doesn't know how to 'dance', dare I call it dancing, doesn't know where to walk, doesn't know what to do with his arms, I feel like he's lost a lot of his spark.

Vocals are shocking.

I mentioned to someone the other day that at the promo shows, he was stood there, purposely not grabbing the microphone, using little hand signals to conduct himself on what notes to get and working on breathing. He's completely sacked that off now.

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I feel like he's forgot how to act on stage. Whether it's age or not, he doesn't even seem 'cool' anymore. He's always been cringe but a lot of stuff he got away with. It's like he doesn't know how to 'dance', dare I call it dancing, doesn't know where to walk, doesn't know what to do with his arms, I feel like he's lost a lot of his spark.

Vocals are shocking.

I mentioned to someone the other day that at the promo shows, he was stood there, purposely not grabbing the microphone, using little hand signals to conduct himself on what notes to get and working on breathing. He's completely sacked that off now.

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I attribute a lot of that with his growing insecurities since his voice has gone downhill. He flashes that smile, raises the hands up to the audience during a solo or outro on one side of the stage and then another looking like a mime conductor meanwhile his face is like he's thinking what to do and where to go next and "damn I butchered that!". I truly do feel for the guy, but the tickets are getting waaayy too expensive and the decline way too steep!....
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I attribute a lot of that with his growing insecurities since his voice has gone downhill. He flashes that smile, raises the hands up to the audience during a solo or outro on one side of the stage and then another looking like a mime conductor meanwhile his face is like he's thinking what to do and where to go next and "damn I butchered that!". I truly do feel for the guy, but the tickets are getting waaayy too expensive and the decline way too steep!....
Yeah, I've said the same thing. It's sad to see but then it's hard to have sympathy when he a) doesn't stop and b) charges ridiculous amounts.

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Yeah, I've said the same thing. It's sad to see but then it's hard to have sympathy when he a) doesn't stop and b) charges ridiculous amounts.

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My point exactly. I feel bad for him, and then I remember he’s milking the fans for every last penny charging absurd prices.


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