Jovitalk - Bon Jovi Fan Community
Home Register Members FAQ
 

2020: The New Album

New Bon Jovi Releases


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #3301  
Old 05-23-2020, 03:12 PM
Thinny's Avatar
Thinny Thinny is offline
Senior Member
Something for the Posts
 
Join Date: 30 Jul 2013
Location: Leicester
Gender: male
Posts: 2,974
Post

Not really sure why people are comparing this to a "live in the studio" playback situation. This is totally different. I think the issue here that every other band I've seen do this, have done it live by recording thier own parts seperately and them mixing/editing them together. I honestly can't think of another band that had done a playback in this situation during the lockdown.

As someone said, laziness, pure and simple....
__________________
Thinny
Reply With Quote
  #3302  
Old 05-23-2020, 03:18 PM
Captain_jovi's Avatar
Captain_jovi Captain_jovi is online now
Moderator
This Post Feels Right
 
Join Date: 30 Jul 2002
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Age: 39
Gender: male
Posts: 13,865
Send a message via AIM to Captain_jovi Send a message via MSN to Captain_jovi
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thinny View Post
Not really sure why people are comparing this to a "live in the studio" playback situation. This is totally different. I think the issue here that every other band I've seen do this, have done it live by recording thier own parts seperately and them mixing/editing them together. I honestly can't think of another band that had done a playback in this situation during the lockdown.

As someone said, laziness, pure and simple....
Bing bing bing bing. Anyone countering with "playback is nothing new" is having a completely different debate.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman View Post
Don't make the mistake of thinking that even 1% of Bon Jovi fans are like you, because they aren't. Don't think you know how Bon Jovi fans think. You don't. You know yourself. Stick to that.
Reply With Quote
  #3303  
Old 05-23-2020, 04:08 PM
Rdkopper's Avatar
Rdkopper Rdkopper is offline
Senior Member
The Distance
 
Join Date: 04 Oct 2008
Gender: male
Posts: 8,659
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Supersonic View Post
Aloha !



Replies like these make me wonder if people actually read the things posted on here. They do playback presentations because TV shows don't provide circumstances that allow live performances. A performance recorded at home does. So unlike what some people seem to think there is no need to do a playback performance.

Is it really that hard to understand?

Salaam Aleikum,
Sebastiaan
Do you read what people write?

Facts:
Limitless is a brand new song that was NEVER performed live with the band.

Professional musician see things way different than some no talent amateur like yourself. They are perfectionist down to every single little detailed aspect. "Good Enough" just doesn't cut it.

They did do an amazing at home version of It's My Life so let's give credit where credit is due.

For Its My Life, they choose the slower acoustic version and stayed away from the faster production one.

Limitless is an up tempo song that requires a lot of layer and production.

Is it hard for you to understand that maybe it was attempted and the results were sub-par?

Based on everything Jon has played live on during the pandemic, I bet he was initially down for a full live version. There were probably other elements that stopped it. And there could be a million reasons for it.

If Jon was on an interview and said "we used playback to play it safe", then there is no debate. But you have nothing to back-up anything you are stating. You are just spewing garbage out of your mouth because that's what you always do.

Sent from my HTC6535LVW using Tapatalk
__________________
World’s Most Professional Bon Jovi Fan!!!
Reply With Quote
  #3304  
Old 05-23-2020, 04:12 PM
Rdkopper's Avatar
Rdkopper Rdkopper is offline
Senior Member
The Distance
 
Join Date: 04 Oct 2008
Gender: male
Posts: 8,659
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thinny View Post
Not really sure why people are comparing this to a "live in the studio" playback situation. This is totally different. I think the issue here that every other band I've seen do this, have done it live by recording thier own parts seperately and them mixing/editing them together. I honestly can't think of another band that had done a playback in this situation during the lockdown.

As someone said, laziness, pure and simple....
Lazy on who's part? Jon's the singer, he don't care where the music comes from? He's not the one editing all the tracks.

He was down for Its My Life. So who's lazy? Obie? Shanks?

You guys seem to know it all. Whats the story? Who dropped the ball here?

Sent from my HTC6535LVW using Tapatalk
__________________
World’s Most Professional Bon Jovi Fan!!!
Reply With Quote
  #3305  
Old 05-23-2020, 04:19 PM
Thinny's Avatar
Thinny Thinny is offline
Senior Member
Something for the Posts
 
Join Date: 30 Jul 2013
Location: Leicester
Gender: male
Posts: 2,974
Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rdkopper View Post
Lazy on who's part? Jon's the singer, he don't care where the music comes from? He's not the one editing all the tracks.

He was down for Its My Life. So who's lazy? Obie? Shanks?
The Jovi camp in general. Nothing new there these days...
__________________
Thinny
Reply With Quote
  #3306  
Old 05-23-2020, 04:26 PM
Rdkopper's Avatar
Rdkopper Rdkopper is offline
Senior Member
The Distance
 
Join Date: 04 Oct 2008
Gender: male
Posts: 8,659
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thinny View Post
The Jovi camp in general. Nothing new there these days...
So who is the Jovi Camp? So they did It's My Life at home which came out brilliant and then said "**** It" for Limitless out of nothing but pure laziness? I just want to know who made that call?

Maybe they actually were playing live during those scenes and the edit came out terrible? But no, someone in the Jovi Camp said **** it instead?

Well I'm glad you guys have that inside source within the Jovi Camp to pull out that fact.

Sent from my HTC6535LVW using Tapatalk
__________________
World’s Most Professional Bon Jovi Fan!!!
Reply With Quote
  #3307  
Old 05-23-2020, 05:00 PM
Captain_jovi's Avatar
Captain_jovi Captain_jovi is online now
Moderator
This Post Feels Right
 
Join Date: 30 Jul 2002
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Age: 39
Gender: male
Posts: 13,865
Send a message via AIM to Captain_jovi Send a message via MSN to Captain_jovi
Default

We don't have the proof they didn't attempt it exactly like you don't have the proof they did so both sides are on literal equal playing fields. All we have is the end product which honestly wasn't even terrible!
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman View Post
Don't make the mistake of thinking that even 1% of Bon Jovi fans are like you, because they aren't. Don't think you know how Bon Jovi fans think. You don't. You know yourself. Stick to that.
Reply With Quote
  #3308  
Old 05-23-2020, 06:00 PM
Rdkopper's Avatar
Rdkopper Rdkopper is offline
Senior Member
The Distance
 
Join Date: 04 Oct 2008
Gender: male
Posts: 8,659
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_jovi View Post
We don't have the proof they didn't attempt it exactly like you don't have the proof they did so both sides are on literal equal playing fields. All we have is the end product which honestly wasn't even terrible!
Right but the difference is, I'm providing tidbits of facts that help dismiss your opinions. The other side has nothing to go off of.

Sent from my HTC6535LVW using Tapatalk
__________________
World’s Most Professional Bon Jovi Fan!!!
Reply With Quote
  #3309  
Old 05-23-2020, 06:01 PM
bonjovi90's Avatar
bonjovi90 bonjovi90 is offline
Senior Member
Posting everyday
 
Join Date: 07 Jun 2008
Gender: male
Posts: 7,339
Default

How long are we gonna keep on beating this dead horse?

They didn't do it live. Probably sounded better because the track is overproduced as shit, but could've come across lazy in terms of them not really wanting to put more effort in it and probably wanting to avoid 3 days of online rehearsals to figure out how to play it etc.
__________________
Check out what's becoming the biggest Bon Jovi touring website: https://bjtours.jimdo.com/
Reply With Quote
  #3310  
Old 05-23-2020, 06:14 PM
Thinny's Avatar
Thinny Thinny is offline
Senior Member
Something for the Posts
 
Join Date: 30 Jul 2013
Location: Leicester
Gender: male
Posts: 2,974
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rdkopper View Post
So who is the Jovi Camp? So they did It's My Life at home which came out brilliant and then said "**** It" for Limitless out of nothing but pure laziness? I just want to know who made that call?
We all know that Jon makes EVERY call in the Bon Jovi camp. The others may make suggestions, but it's ALWAYS Jon's call. He's the CEO Remember.

As for It's My Life, it's much easier to record an acoustic track than an electric track.
Maybe they did it and it did sound shit, but a band with their abilities that shouldn't be the case. So in my opinion, they never even tried at took the easy option. Lazy....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rdkopper View Post
Right but the difference is, I'm providing tidbits of facts that help dismiss your opinions. The other side has nothing to go off of.
You're really not. As usual you just believe that your own opinion is more right that anyone elses. It isn't. It's all just specualtion. I'm not sure why you always take it so personally when someone has a different opinion to you....
__________________
Thinny

Last edited by Thinny; 05-23-2020 at 06:18 PM..
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
2020 (album)


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 07:52 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11.
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.