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Old 01-04-2018, 12:51 AM
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Nice to finally see this show on YouTube... it was my very first BJ concert... I didn't even realize how great it was at the time because everything was always great back then and it was just the standard...

Anyway a few nice covers and rarities... Even a nice rendition of Cadillac Man...
https://youtu.be/DLsAhow7j4A

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Thanx for sharing,Im a big fan of Cadillac Man and its great to hear any other version.
Im sure theres a demo recorded at the studio,hope we get it someday
I was at the Count Basie Theater in May 2010 when the Jovi shows at the Meadowlands Stadium,and I remember seeing that show printed in shirts and other merchandise along with others of course
Those were the days man
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:42 AM
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Is Cadillac man the most often played unreleased Bon Jovi song?

I thought it was only played in Osaka in 1991 and at Hammersmith Odeon in 1990 but this Count Basie performance is something new. How many times has it been played in total?
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Old 01-04-2018, 04:13 AM
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Is Cadillac man the most often played unreleased Bon Jovi song?

I thought it was only played in Osaka in 1991 and at Hammersmith Odeon in 1990 but this Count Basie performance is something new. How many times has it been played in total?
4 times are documented:
- Melbourne 1989
- Hammersmith Odeon 1990
- Red Bank 1990
- Osaka 1991
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Anyone get the full video from the beginning in great quality (or at least until Steve Harvey had to interrupt)... I mixed this version below with the one a fan posted which was a cell phone vid from their TV...

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Also, there were just several notes that he didn't go for. Compare this version to even the live version from Toronto in 2011. This is way way worse.


True. But it’s an improvement over many/most performances on the 2017 tour. That’s why some have hope.


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I didn't see nothing on that video that would suggest significant and sustainable improvement on Jon's vocals.

Since 2015 there has nothing but perceived "improvements" every other show on this board and the end result is still dreadful performances 99% of the time.

When will you people learn?
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I didn't see nothing on that video that would suggest significant and sustainable improvement on Jon's vocals.

Since 2015 there has nothing but perceived "improvements" every other show on this board and the end result is still dreadful performances 99% of the time.

When will you people learn?
Can i ask you why everything you do in this board is just hating?? Whenever somebody tries to write something here the only thing you do is just tell him how stupid he is...i think everybody knows that you don't like the current situation of bon Jovi (doesn't matter if you're right or wrong) but just stop doing this! it's so annoying man even for somebody like me that never posts anything but just reads this forum
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Video for OWN that I had never seen before:
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Can i ask you why everything you do in this board is just hating?? Whenever somebody tries to write something here the only thing you do is just tell him how stupid he is...i think everybody knows that you don't like the current situation of bon Jovi (doesn't matter if you're right or wrong) but just stop doing this! it's so annoying man even for somebody like me that never posts anything but just reads this forum
If you really read this forum, you can't say that Walleris is a hater. He's just a -very- realistic man. And he knows what he's talking about (technically, I mean)

Of course that "great" is a subjective word. To me, this TYFLM version was "great" and a surprise, as I didn't expect Jon to sing this again. But despite all the effort and some high notes achieved screaming, technically we can't really say that it was a great perfomance. I think that is Walleris point.

Anyway, If Jon is ok with his current voice, alright. I'm glad that the guy is still around and making new music.
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If you really read this forum, you can't say that Walleris is a hater. He's just a -very- realistic man. And he knows what he's talking about (technically, I mean)

Of course that "great" is a subjective word. To me, this TYFLM version was "great" and a surprise, as I didn't expect Jon to sing this again. But despite all the effort and some high notes achieved screaming, technically we can't really say that it was a great perfomance. I think that is Walleris point.

Anyway, If Jon is ok with his current voice, alright. I'm glad that the guy is still around and making new music.
There's realism and saying things like "When will you people learn?" that just suck the fun out of it if you're a new fan. Walleris isn't wrong but the delivery sometimes is a tad harsh.
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