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Old 03-05-2018, 05:38 PM
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According to billboard, the gap of 15 months since THINFS reached the #1, is the longest amount of time to an album "reclaim the summit". And it's the third album to do it in history.

Well, we know the way it was achieved, but it's still good to see the band in the spotlights. Even for a few days...
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Am I reading that right, another 130k albums sold this week.
Sales must include those given away with ticket sales. No way the album sells 130k on the strength of 2 new songs.
​"Bon Jovi’s former No. 1 album, This House Is Not for Sale, is back atop the Billboard 200 chart for a second week.

The set re-enters the tally with 120,000 equivalent album units earned in the week ending March 1, according to Nielsen Music, up from a negligible figure in the previous week. Essentially all of its sum is traditional album sales. The surge back to No. 1 is owed nearly entirely to sales generated by a concert ticket/album sale redemption offer with Bon Jovi’s upcoming U.S. arena tour."

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I’ve been listening to Volume off and on today. Apparently Prince was the first to bundle an album with tickets and a lot of artists are doing it now because sales in the music industry are utterly abysmal. Metallica is another act they mentioned as using this method for marketing.

There was also a discussion of how musicians are putting out all kinds of other products because no one buys music anymore. They listed at least a dozen artists (including some alcoholics) who have alcoholic beverages attached to their name.
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It's pretty pathetic to the entire Music Industry as a whole that 120 thousand albums sold is enough for a number 1 spot period!!!

Forget Bon Jovi... what happened to the other millions of bands out there selling music?

I don't think the bundling thing is done for any type of accolade or bragging rights by the band... I think it's all record company driven... Veteran artists are great at selling concert tickets but lack mainstream successes... So in order for the record company to support the new albums and promote them, they need other outlets to help generate album sales and considering ticket sales are huge for Bon Jovi, they latch onto that...

It's most likely part of the bands new record deal... There is no money in record sales or even singles for veteran bands anymore which is the reason why most get dropped (and essentially why Jon got dropped)...

I think it's a win / win... Jon can still tour without an album like Billy Joel does... but as long as Jon wants to make new music under a record label, 10 bucks from all ticket sales going towards that album,which is essentially the case, isn't a bad deal....it's also a very small percentage when you look at the grand scale...

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Why is Bon Jovi’s album back at No. 1, two years later — and is that fair?

Bon Jovi’s 2016 album This House Is Not for Sale re-enters the Billboard 200 at No. 1, dislodging the hot-selling soundtrack to the blockbuster film Black Panther. How can that be? Bon Jovi’s album was boosted by a concert ticket/album sale redemption offer, in which fans who bought a ticket to Bon Jovi’s upcoming arena tour could also opt to get the album. A similar redemption offer enabled the album to debut at No. 1 back in November 2016.

Many other albums have benefited from such offers. Just since last summer, such promotions boosted Arcade Fire’s Everything Now, LCD Soundsystem’s American Dream, the Killers’ Wonderful Wonderful, Shania Twain’s Now, and P!nk’s Beautiful Trauma, all of which debuted at No. 1.

But while these bundles are an established practice in the music industry, they raise fairness issues. Is Bon Jovi’s album really the most popular album in America this week, or did the band’s team just capitalize on a quirk in chart methodology?

The album owes almost all of its success to the two promotions. It sold 128K copies in traditional album sales in its first week. It sold 120K copies this week. But get this: In the 67 weeks between those tent-pole weeks, it sold just 78K copies — on average, just a little more than 1K copies a week. Last week, without the promotion, the album sold just 175 copies.

Keith Caulfield, Billboard‘s co-director of charts, explained how these offers work in his chart recap this week. “For the tour’s ticket/album sale redemption offer, the price of the standard CD edition of This House Is Not for Sale was bundled into the purchase price of each ticket sold online to the tour. Customers received, via email, a redemption offer for the album, where they could choose to redeem the CD and have it mailed to them. The only sales that count towards the charts are those albums that are redeemed by customers. Many ticket buyers never redeem the offer.”

In a previous column, he explained the rationale behind the promotions. “Artists and record labels have increasingly turned to offering ticket/album bundles as a way to sell music, as the traditional retail landscape has changed dramatically in recent years, and as album sales continue to shrink. Not only are a growing number of fans turning to streaming in order to consume albums (instead of buying them), but the brick-and-mortar retailers that remain in business have dramatically reduced the number of titles they sell in stores (as well as the physical floor space for those albums). In turn, artists have found new ways to sell their music — from selling them bundled with merchandise, to offering them with concert tickets.”

Fair or not fair, This House Is Not for Sale will go down as Bon Jovi’s first album to log multiple weeks at No. 1 since New Jersey in 1988. That album, the band’s follow-up to their commercial breakthrough Slippery When Wet, spawned five top 10 hits on the Hot 100. This House Is Not for Sale has yet to spawn any Hot 100 hits.

This House Is Not for Sale returns to No. 1 following a 67-week gap. That’s the longest gap between appearances at No. 1 for any album since Bing Crosby’s Merry Christmasreturned to No. 1 in January 1958, seven years after its most recent No. 1 appearance. (That album contained his immortal “White Christmas.”)

This House Is Not for Sale is the third album to re-enter the Billboard 200 at No. 1, following Chris Stapleton’s Traveller (following his big night at the CMA Awards in 2015) and Prince’s The Very Best of Prince (following his death in 2016). This House Is Not for Sale has been in release for 69 weeks, but this is just its eighth week on the Billboard 200. The album charted for seven weeks in late 2016 and early 2017.

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It's not fair.

I know other artists are doing it, so I credit the BJ camp or the label for doing the smart thing, but it's on Billboard to recognize this phenomenon stop counting it as sales.
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It's great to get the new music to the fans buying the tickets, but it should be chart ineligible. But yeah, makes a change for them to use a loophole to their advantage, not that it makes up for years of lazy promotion.
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At least the people who claimed the CD wanted it. Verizon bought a million copies of Jay Z’s last CD so that it was “platinum” before it was released and they gave it to thei customers whether they wanted it or not. One entity, in this case a business, was entirely responsible for those numbers.
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Media Traffic GLOBAL CHART ALBUM TOP 40:
week 10 / 2018 - March 10

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This House Is Not For Sale 3°
EMI / Island
125.000 equivalent sales this week / 692.000 totally
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