Jovitalk - Bon Jovi Fan Community
Home Register Members FAQ
 

Jovi's direction

General BJ Discussion


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 06-28-2006, 01:10 AM
bonweissy bonweissy is offline
Member
Runaway
 
Join Date: 23 Jan 2003
Posts: 90
Default Jovi's direction

I was looking over the catalgoue of songs of Bon Jovi's last three albums and came to the sad realization that their quality of work has clearly dipped. I supose I never noticed due to the fact that music nowadays is soooooo crap that a new jovi album was greeted with a sense of relief rather than excitement and the shows I caught on the last three tours still blew me away. Also, I noticed on the HAND tour that jon is slowing down; his vocal range is waaay down and his presence, though better than most, isn't what it used to be. I know many of you consider this to be blasphemous, but I was wondering what direction you think the band should go in? Their recent success is impressive but is more of a nod to the loyalty of their fans. I still believe they have one monster album left in them. So I guess what I am really asking is: How can the boys re asert themselves the next time around (I guess I am hoping for an aerosmithee-sque comeback when they released 'get a grip')?
Reply With Quote

  #2  
Old 06-28-2006, 01:20 AM
Javier's Avatar
Javier Javier is offline
Senior Member
Blaze of Posting
 
Join Date: 22 Aug 2002
Location: Puerto Rico
Gender: male
Posts: 9,345
Default

I don't know.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-28-2006, 01:50 AM
haveaniceday haveaniceday is offline
Senior Member
Lay your Posts on Me
 
Join Date: 01 May 2005
Posts: 684
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bonweissy
I was looking over the catalgoue of songs of Bon Jovi's last three albums and came to the sad realization that their quality of work has clearly dipped. I supose I never noticed due to the fact that music nowadays is soooooo crap that a new jovi album was greeted with a sense of relief rather than excitement and the shows I caught on the last three tours still blew me away. Also, I noticed on the HAND tour that jon is slowing down; his vocal range is waaay down and his presence, though better than most, isn't what it used to be. I know many of you consider this to be blasphemous, but I was wondering what direction you think the band should go in? Their recent success is impressive but is more of a nod to the loyalty of their fans. I still believe they have one monster album left in them. So I guess what I am really asking is: How can the boys re asert themselves the next time around (I guess I am hoping for an aerosmithee-sque comeback when they released 'get a grip')?

Slowing down is a result of aging....it happens to every human.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-28-2006, 01:58 AM
Becky's Avatar
Becky Becky is offline
Retired Super Moderator
Crush
 
Join Date: 30 Jul 2002
Location: Mississippi
Gender: female
Posts: 20,293
Default

I think their direction has improved dramatically since 2000. I was watching interviews from the Crush era the past few days and it astounded me to be reminded that they had over 60 songs written for that CD because, when I listen to Crush, or attempt to listen to Crush now, I skip the majority of it. How did 60 songs result in one of their weakest CDs? I think Bounce holds up much better and HAND leaves both Bounce and Crush in the dust. I'm not getting the criticism of Jon as a vocalist either. I've been pulling out a lot of their past collection and revisiting it the past few weeks after ages of not listening to those older CDs. He sounds so much more mature with richer tone and depth on later releases than he did in the 20 years ago. I don't care if he's hittting ridiculously high notes like he did in Prayer and Runaway. Now I get why my parents said they thought he sounded like he was "screaming" when I made them listen to Bon Jovi. LOL I'd rather listen to him sing the way he sings now than then.
__________________
Life is short. Be sure to spend as much time as possible on the internet arguing about politics and entertainment.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-28-2006, 02:24 AM
Thomas Anderson's Avatar
Thomas Anderson Thomas Anderson is offline
Friends will be friends
Bounce
 
Join Date: 15 Aug 2002
Location: Merseyside, England
Age: 36
Gender: male
Posts: 30,116
Default

I was 15 the summer Crush was released, and before then I'd not really been interested in music a lot. I remember seeing It's My Life and Say It Isn't So on MTV/VH1 etc (they used to show music videos then ) and being interested enough to buy the album. After that I slowly started to build up the back catalogue of albums, but for a long while Crush was my favourite. At the time Bounce came out I was really getting into it, started collecting bootlegs, following the news of the tour, though I wasn't greatly impressed with the album, it is probably one of my least favourite now.

Last year though before Have A Nice Day was released I was really getting hyped up about it but made a point to avoid spoilers (clips of songs, lyrics etc) and when I finally got the album on release day I wasn't dissapointed. I loved it and still do, a couple of songs I perhaps skip at times, but overall I think they've come back a way from Bounce. I still very much like Crush, most of it anyway, and think it was a very creative time for the band after having a few years apart. There is a lot of influence from Jon on that album, some songs spilled over from his solo album etc but I do still very much enjoy it

Now, I'm not sure what to expect. I don't think they'll just go for the same sound as Have A Nice Day, they've always seemed to have a good change in direction between albums, sometimes not so much but no 2 albums really sound the same. They are getting older, they have more experience of family life now, there have been problems with their relationships outside the band which could influence their writing, there are lots of factors. I think that the success they've had with the country music style may factor into it a little, though I hope not.

I look forward to whatever comes next anyway, and especially for the next tour.
__________________

Last edited by Thomas Anderson; 06-28-2006 at 02:34 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-28-2006, 03:01 AM
Bongo VII's Avatar
Bongo VII Bongo VII is offline
Senior Member
Jovi FANatic
 
Join Date: 13 Dec 2005
Location: Providence
Age: 34
Gender: female
Posts: 1,342
Send a message via AIM to Bongo VII Send a message via MSN to Bongo VII
Default

I'm not sure exactly how I feel about where they're going.

I like HAND a lot better than Bounce or Crush.

But I don't like that this album really could have been made without David. If they took out the keyboards, I don't think for the most part there'd be a huge difference. And me being me and feeling how I do about David, that irks me.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-28-2006, 03:44 AM
Kathleen's Avatar
Kathleen Kathleen is offline
Jovitalk Award Winner
I'll Post When I'm Dead
 
Join Date: 05 Feb 2003
Location: New Jersey
Age: 73
Gender: female
Posts: 17,175
Send a message via AIM to Kathleen Send a message via MSN to Kathleen
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Becky
Now I get why my parents said they thought he sounded like he was "screaming" when I made them listen to Bon Jovi. LOL I'd rather listen to him sing the way he sings now than then.
Oh dear - you are starting to sound like a parent yourself LOL. I agree with you on the tone and quality of Jon's voice. I do miss the the all out rock and roll screams though.

Kathleen
__________________

You write your truth and I'll write mine.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-28-2006, 06:20 AM
bjcrazycpa's Avatar
bjcrazycpa bjcrazycpa is offline
Senior Member
Jovi Geek
 
Join Date: 30 Aug 2002
Location: Weehawken, NJ
Age: 57
Gender: female
Posts: 6,866
Default

I listened to Bon Jovi (the first record) the other day and then to HAND. It's wild how far they've come in that time period. I honestly, look forward to every release because they never repeat themselves. And while Jon may not have the all out power in his voice that he had in the nineties, the man still has a very good voice. I was listening to the Feb 2006 AC show today and realized just how good his voice still is. Granted I think he got a little lazy with his voice when singing live during the Crush and Bounce tours but I think he's gone for some high parts again (In These Arms) that he completely dodged in the prior two tours. Even when he doesn't sing the songs perfectly, at least he's still making the attempt.

As far as their future direction for a record, who knows but I can't wait to hear it!!

deb
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-28-2006, 06:45 AM
RyanBounce04 RyanBounce04 is offline
Senior Member
Jovi Geek
 
Join Date: 29 Jul 2002
Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Age: 35
Gender: male
Posts: 6,818
Send a message via AIM to RyanBounce04 Send a message via MSN to RyanBounce04 Send a message via Yahoo to RyanBounce04
Default

I think they are staying somewhat consistent when it comes to writing and the particular style. Though I would say in all honesty that the degree of work has gone downhill, I still really like Crush, Bounce, and Have A Nice Day. I think it's a lot better than some of the crap out there, but it doesn't seem quite up to par with what they've amazed me with in the past. There are the very few bright moments, but even they are not of the same quality as previous material.

Ryan
__________________
Dallas Cowboys - 2007 NFC East Champions
Boston Red Sox - 2007 World Series Champions
Florida State Seminoles - 2000 National Champions
Tampa Bay Lightning - 2004 Stanley Cup Champions
Philadelphia Soul - 2008 AFL Champions
Oklahoma City Thunder - ????????
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-28-2006, 07:22 AM
Captain_jovi's Avatar
Captain_jovi Captain_jovi is online now
Moderator
I Don't Want To Post Forever
 
Join Date: 31 Jul 2002
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Age: 36
Gender: male
Posts: 12,670
Send a message via AIM to Captain_jovi Send a message via MSN to Captain_jovi
Default

To me, it feels like it took a good 4 or 5 years to get theirselves going. They had so much time off, it took awhile to get back into the groove. HAND just sounds like such a Bon Jovi record to me. Crush didn't, and Bounce CERTAINLY didn't. they all had their good songs but HAND sounds like what they should have sounded like in 2000. They're pulling out rarities, going out of their way to play songs they normally wouldn't, Jons sounding the best he had in years. IMHO, it took these years to get the machine rolling.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11.
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.