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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi
Jon doing a song he wants to do that tanks creates a lull, Jon leaving the stage creates people flat out leaving for a bit. While both are bad, one is worse. I'm obviously not saying that 100 percent played into the decision.
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I agree with your reasoning and the valid points about reactions to songs fans don't know/like. But again, Jon and Richie knew all that
before anything was ever said about them doing solo stuff
and before 3 of the songs were added to one of the special editions of WAN, which isn't SOP, either. So I still don't get why crowd reactions would've played
any role in Jon changing his mind. I don't disagree that it might have; I just don't get why it would.
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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi
My brain is foggy sometimes, do we have some interview with Jon saying Richie was going to sing his new songs on the tour? I know there was the one that Richie gave. It feels like we're treating this like they had an agreement where they'd tour earlier than expected in exchange for him promoting his album on tour and I don't know where it's coming from.
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The idea that Jon may have agreed to let Richie promote Aftermath because he was coerced into touring sooner than expected probably came from me since, afaik, no one else has mentioned it. And I'm not saying that's what happened. It's just a thought that occurred to me as I worked through the limited information we were given, looking for something significant enough to cause Richie to walk out in the middle of a tour. Nothing but pure speculation based on a gazillion little things that don't add up for me. They don't need to be rehashed here because most of them have been discussed already; and it would just stir up another J vs R discussion. If you're interested in the connections and why I think it might be significant, PM me; and I'll be happy to explain. Otherwise, just consider it another wild hair; and carry on.
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Whether it had anything to do with Jon's ultimatum and the timing of the tour is beside the point, anyway. Point being that there obviously
was an understanding that Richie would be doing songs from Aftermath; and yes, there were interviews from both of them.
I couldn't put my hands on the video interview where I first saw Jon talking about it; but here's a print one from November, 2012:
https://www.billboard.com/articles/n...gs-at-club-gig
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Bon Jovi is impressed with his bandmates' work away from Bon Jovi: David Bryan's musical "Memphis" won four Tony Awards; Tico Torres has been showing his paintings in galleries; and Richie Sambora is touring behind his solo album. They'll reunite early next year to learn about 75 songs for the tour, including the "Stand Up Guys" songs.
"Theres always going to be some time where I'm going to want to strum an acoustic just like Richie will do something from his solo album," he says. "We'll definitely play them."
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This one is from the interview Richie did in September 2012 about Dangerbird:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ear...lowdown-370991
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...[Sambora] adds that bandleader Jon Bon Jovi is extremely supportive of the project.
“I’m going to go play these songs live when the band goes out on tour [in the spring]," Sambora says. "Jon’s going to let me play a couple of songs, so I am going to continue promoting this record even when I’m out on the road with the band."
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Oh, and btw, I just realized that statement from Richie was made
before the cancelled NA shows. That
could indicate that his promotion of Aftermath was indeed cut short because he was called back in sooner than expected; which might also be an answer to your question about why make up shows were never scheduled. There was plenty of time after he left the tour, obviously; but given the negative reactions to Calgary, I doubt he would have seen much point in it. (Threw that in for free.)
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