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Old 04-30-2021, 08:24 PM
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He also doesn't think it tanked because of quality but because there wasn't much by way of promotion.
And that's exactly the point. There wasn't much promotion for that album - as usual. Although - in my book - the pandemic offered a lot of new chances to promote new music on a whole different level without even leaving home: video interviews, digital performances, pre-recorded performances that cover-up Jon's voice, etc. If they had wanted to promote 2020 much more, there would have been a lot of possibilities to do so.

I think they did that One Night thing to give the album its live moment and thus go on with the usual greatest hits set + 2 new songs. So it'd be interesting to see which one of us will be right.
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If playing more of 2020 would push LH, WLOL, WHo Says and other garbage out of the setlist, I'm all for it.

I still think that it'll be streamed for money one day. They'll use every opportunity to make money out of it. So first cinemas/drive-ins and then a live stream.
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And that's exactly the point. There wasn't much promotion for that album - as usual. Although - in my book - the pandemic offered a lot of new chances to promote new music on a whole different level without even leaving home: video interviews, digital performances, pre-recorded performances that cover-up Jon's voice, etc. If they had wanted to promote 2020 much more, there would have been a lot of possibilities to do so.

I think they did that One Night thing to give the album its live moment and thus go on with the usual greatest hits set + 2 new songs. So it'd be interesting to see which one of us will be right.
I think there was a lot of chances to do stuff like that, yeah, and for whatever reason they didn't. But I don't think it was 2020 specific, it feels like they just put pause on so much. The perfect anecdote I can think of is when they were promoting The Circle and Jon said if the fans got Superman Tonight to the top of the VH1 countdown him and Richie would do an acoustic version from the dressing room. It didn't go to number 1 and they didn't do it. There desire to actually push these things feel like it needs to be forced on them.

It kind of feels like Jon trusts his team and marketing people to push it and the pandemic really showed that it if comes to him doing it himself he won't.

You may be right, he may want to say screw it, bury the album and start fresh but I don't get the logic that because it bombed that means people don't know the songs. That's already quite a few songs on the current setlist, he plays them because he wants to regardless of sales. I just feel like now he can properly play stuff live he may give it a second shot, put Luv Can out and see where it goes. I really don't know any more haha.
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I think there was a lot of chances to do stuff like that, yeah, and for whatever reason they didn't. But I don't think it was 2020 specific, it feels like they just put pause on so much. The perfect anecdote I can think of is when they were promoting The Circle and Jon said if the fans got Superman Tonight to the top of the VH1 countdown him and Richie would do an acoustic version from the dressing room. It didn't go to number 1 and they didn't do it. There desire to actually push these things feel like it needs to be forced on them.
Oh I had forgotten that quote. But this explains why Jon used to say disrespectfully "that's the one you're hearing on the radio and seeing on the video, FOR WHAT THAT'S WORTH" for about 20-30 shows in 2010 before starting Superman.
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Oh I had forgotten that quote. But this explains why Jon used to say disrespectfully "that's the one you're hearing on the radio and seeing on the video, FOR WHAT THAT'S WORTH" for about 20-30 shows in 2010 before starting Superman.
Yup and knowing now he knew Because We Can bombed and he knew he was forcing it down everyone's throats for an entire tour to the point of repeating the chorus when the song is over speaks wonders on whether or not he'll abandon ship on 2020 early.
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Oh I had forgotten that quote. But this explains why Jon used to say disrespectfully "that's the one you're hearing on the radio and seeing on the video, FOR WHAT THAT'S WORTH" for about 20-30 shows in 2010 before starting Superman.
I think that means no Television outlets are playing it.

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It kind of feels like Jon trusts his team and marketing people to push it and the pandemic really showed that it if comes to him doing it himself he won't.
Since Burning Bridges, Jon's team is Matt.
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Since Burning Bridges, Jon's team is Matt.
I don't know if I agree. Wasn't that around the time Jon signed with Irving Azoff? Matt's not making his media decisions or suggesting things out of the realm of the fan club trips I assumed.
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Yet, it was strangely quiet for a concert.
That's because the concert appears to be a direct-to-tape performance, where the band members are hearing the music in their ear monitors and producers are hearing it in the recording trucks instead of the amplifiers in the theater.
https://www.app.com/story/entertainm...rt/7404384002/
I'll Be There For You is the best hit song Jon can sing these days. He did a good job on this song in the latest concerts in 2019. Lost Highway of course gives headache.
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Old 05-01-2021, 10:10 AM
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I don't know if I agree. Wasn't that around the time Jon signed with Irving Azoff? Matt's not making his media decisions or suggesting things out of the realm of the fan club trips I assumed.
Bon Jovi would be the weirdest ****ing Azoff client then. Dude usually gets shit moving big time. I wonder how the deal worked exactly. I mean, his label deal at the moment is mostly a distribution deal, no? I wonder if Azoff is also mostly doing touring stuff. The band's social media content in particular seems hardly big league.
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