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Old 10-09-2020, 06:23 PM
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#16 Ireland
#20 Netherlands
#6 Belgium - Flanders
#17 Belgium - Wallonia
#8 Japan
#5 UK
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Old 10-09-2020, 06:35 PM
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I was under the impression the download code would need to be REDEEMED to be counted. Or is it they need to be requested to be counted? If the sales numbers included the concert ticket bundle the band is in way worse trouble than we thought.
They would have to be redeemed before Oct 8 for the Oct 2 release to be counted. But if their codes/vouchers weren't voided with the cancellation, they still could've been redeemed when the album was released. I'm not sure if the redemptions would show up as sales from the sites where they were redeemed or if they were considered sales by the promoter at the time the tickets were purchased. The Ticketmaster site regarding bundles was kind of vague (or maybe that was my brain); but it looked like there was some wiggle-room as to how they would be handled. The policy on refunds for purchase of items included with the sale was confusing, too. So I'm not sure. Having worked with Universal, Steve probably has better insight on it than I do.

I just don't see why Jon would have backed it up from Oct 30 to Oct 2 unless it was to get in under the deadline so the merch and ticket bundles could he counted. Then again, when the change in Billboard's policy was first discussed, you asked if Oct 30 was ever an official date. I could have sworn it was; but if not, then my whole line of reasoning doesn't make sense anyway.

Wouldn't be the first time.
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Old 10-09-2020, 06:42 PM
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I think so, yeah.
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Number 5 in the UK it has entered.

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About what was expected right?
Same as THINFS
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They would have to be redeemed before Oct 8 for the Oct 2 release to be counted. But if their codes/vouchers weren't voided with the cancellation, they still could've been redeemed when the album was released. I'm not sure if the redemptions would show up as sales from the sites where they were redeemed or if they were considered sales by the promoter at the time the tickets were purchased. The Ticketmaster site regarding bundles was kind of vague (or maybe that was my brain); but it looked like there was some wiggle-room as to how they would be handled. The policy on refunds for purchase of items included with the sale was confusing, too. So I'm not sure. Having worked with Universal, Steve probably has better insight on it than I do.

I just don't see why Jon would have backed it up from Oct 30 to Oct 2 unless it was to get in under the deadline so the merch and ticket bundles could he counted. Then again, when the change in Billboard's policy was first discussed, you asked if Oct 30 was ever an official date. I could have sworn it was; but if not, then my whole line of reasoning doesn't make sense anyway.

Wouldn't be the first time.
If they have been refunded for the ticket and have a code that works (which I would think would be unlikely), then the album would be considered a free gift or a promotional item, as they haven't paid for it, and therefore it's not chart elegible. The cost of the album is factored into the ticket price, and therefore chart elegible only when they have paid.
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Old 10-09-2020, 08:12 PM
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Number 5 in the UK it has entered.
Jesus, Amanda Holden went in above them. What a joke....
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Old 10-09-2020, 08:59 PM
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If they have been refunded for the ticket and have a code that works (which I would think would be unlikely), then the album would be considered a free gift or a promotional item, as they haven't paid for it, and therefore it's not chart elegible. The cost of the album is factored into the ticket price, and therefore chart elegible only when they have paid.
Gotcha. I think you said something like this in the original discussion but it slipped my mind.

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