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Old 05-16-2017, 12:33 AM
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Forgive me, but I just don't see how Bono's vocals are bad?

I watch these clips, and I think his vocals are actually pretty decent, especially for the beginning of a tour.
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Firstly, that Red Hill Mining Town performance was just a mess. He just can't sing the chorus at all, perhaps that's the reason why it was never played even in 1987. Secondly, I was hoping that he would sing With or Without You like on the record, at least for this anniversary show (with those "oh-ohs"), but he sang it the same way he has for the past few tours. And lastly, during Miss Sarajevo they had Pavarotti's parts on playback as supposed to Bono's singing, which was still able to do as recently as 2011. I'm sure it was amazing live in person, but from YouTube it doesn't seem like it was their best night.

Struggling to see how this was a complete mess? The new bass line on that song is amazing. The chorus Bono clearly struggles with, but still - it's actually not nearly as bad as you are portraying it.

Also the Pavarotti playback was more of an effect thing, I think? Bono didn't go for the same notes when he played it in 2011. I've seen that song twice now - once in Edmonton 2011 and now on this tour. It was just a different feel and fitted the song and the effect of the video they were playing.

Also, you're upset about the chorus of Red Hill, but want Bono to attempt to sing that part of with or without you?

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It's was a complete mess... U2 are just as done!!!!

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Struggling to see how this was a complete mess? The new bass line on that song is amazing. The chorus Bono clearly struggles with, but still - it's actually not nearly as bad as you are portraying it.

Also the Pavarotti playback was more of an effect thing, I think? Bono didn't go for the same notes when he played it in 2011. I've seen that song twice now - once in Edmonton 2011 and now on this tour. It was just a different feel and fitted the song and the effect of the video they were playing.

Also, you're upset about the chorus of Red Hill, but want Bono to attempt to sing that part of with or without you?

I find this reaction of yours to be quite ironic. For someone who loves criticizing recent Bon Jovi live performances (rightfully so, I may add) and making fun of "apologists" who attack those critics on this board (again IMO, rightfully so), you sure as hell couldn't handle criticism being thrown another band's show that you attended and loved. Especially, when I acknowledged myslef that "I'm sure it was amazing live in person" and "it's a shame I won't be able to attend this time"

Firstly, Red Hill Mining Town. I wasn't refering to the performance you posted as that show had not even taken place (getting selective with evidence, aren't we?). I was talking about the Vancouver performance, obviously. Was I a bit strong in my language? Perhaps, but judging by the comment section of this video, I definitely wasn't the only one who didn't like it. The Seattle performance you posted was considerably better, but still leaves quite some to be desired. If Bono can get a semi-free pass for struggling (despite the lower key!), that there's no reason why there was a need to transpose it to a piano-driven ballad. It just lost the energy of the album version.

Secondly, Miss Sarajevo. We don't know the real reason why he didn't sing those lines, but those are some challenging notes, especially that final "L'amore", so I assume he opted not too do it for vocal reasons. Perhaps you are right, maybe it's for "effect", but either way I'm never a fan of playback vocals, including when there's a "virtual duet".

Thirdly, as for With Or Without You, let me clear your confusion - I was refering to the little ad-lib in the chorus ("with or without you ah-ah, I can't live with or without you" - at 1:34 mark here). This is not a high note by any means and in no way is vocally demanding for Bono to sing. But he hasn't sung it like that since at least 1993, because he just feels like singing it differently. I was simply that he was going to bring his melody to the album version, since this is an album anniversary tour, but he didn't, so I was a bit dissapointed at that, that's it. Funny thing is, my mother saw U2 in 2015 and she noted the same thing, so I'm not the only one that really likes that part of the chorus. But my point is, it has nothing to do with vocal ability or Red Hill performance.

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Beautifully Stated !!!! In short, he's just a Troll...

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I was confused on the with or without you comments. But now i see what you mean.

Other than that, I don't get why you think I was being aggressive, because I wasn't. I didnt call names, I just questioned your statements.

The soundboard mix released sounded way better than performances recorded from iphones, and sounded quite similar to what I heard in Vancouver.

Bono always sounds weaker at the beginning of a tour. But in my opinion Bono sounds way stronger here than the beginning of the 360 tour. I think it will only get better.



Also RD- legit confused on your U2 are done comments. U2 are bigger now than they have ever been - Bon Jovi is now struggling to sell 12,000 person arenas. U2 are selling 60,000-80,000 person stadiums in less than a minute across North America and Europe.
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Also RD- legit confused on your U2 are done comments. U2 are bigger now than they have ever been - Bon Jovi is now struggling to sell 12,000 person arenas. U2 are selling 60,000-80,000 person stadiums in less than a minute across North America and Europe.[/QUOTE]

they are selling because their music is for larger audience,that is pop or soft rock like Coldplay,they dont have any fast or hard songs like Jovi do and they are not touring every two years like Jovi,statistics is on Jovi side,they are the most working rock band on the planet!
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they are selling because their music is for larger audience,that is pop or soft rock like Coldplay,they dont have any fast or hard songs like Jovi do and they are not touring every two years like Jovi,statistics is on Jovi side,they are the most working rock band on the planet!
Wow I didn't know the hardest working band on the planet plays 3 shows a week while on tour and still struggles through them.

Also, I don't get your need of defence. RD was claiming that U2 was a dying band. They are not. If anything, Bon Jovi is a dying band. Whether they're hard working or not, it doesn't really prove anything.
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Wow I didn't know the hardest working band on the planet plays 3 shows a week while on tour and still struggles through them.

Also, I don't get your need of defence. RD was claiming that U2 was a dying band. They are not. If anything, Bon Jovi is a dying band. Whether they're hard working or not, it doesn't really prove anything.
dying or not,it is not matter,we still loved them,they are trying and work hard,strugled or not,U2 is like I said more comfortable for ears for masses,and every band that exists 30 plus years is dying,but that is not the end and statistics from 1984 and specially from 1990 shows that they played more shows than any other band,only that information is for great respect!
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