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Captain_jovi 04-07-2022 01:30 AM

Whether or not Jon will still record when he can't tour will be the ultimate artistic test. Making the point that Jon could stick to the studio and not tour....no one cares about the studio stuff. I wish it was different and I wish it had an audience but I legit do not think it does. If he's cool putting it out and not caring what it sells. Even supporting the new albums live it doesn't matter, imagine how much worse it will do without being able to support it.

It sucks to say but the general public does not care about Jon's artistic side.

superkid 04-07-2022 03:17 AM

I was one of the few to speak positively of the tour after enjoying myself on Sunday but after watching some videos over the past few days I'm fully realizing how dire the situation with his voice is. What a tough week this was, to recap:

-Richie Sambora calls into the wacky Fox & Friends show and appears to be under the influence of something at 5:50am in the morning.
-David Bryan's "Diana the Musical" wins 5 Razzies, including worst picture.
-Jon Bon Jovi has the worst vocal performances of his entire career, and it's not even close.

What a rough week, congrats to Tico for being the only one to not embarrass himself! In fact he's the most talented musician on stage at this point IMO.

Anyways, I believe that word about her poor vocals is going to severely impact ticket sales and interest moving forward, if he continues to try touring like normal. My pipedream is for them to do a 40th anniversary farewell tour with Richie in '24, which would allow them to go out on top selling out stadiums all around the world. Labeling it the "farewell" tour will move tickets like no other trick can, so even if he continues to sound like he does fans will still turnout and be more forgiving of the vocals knowing it's the end. But at the end of the day Jon will make the decision on what the band's future will look like. If he wants to keep milking this for the rest of his life, even without Tico or David, nothing is stopping him.

Watching the video of Bad Medicine from Sunday made me think "Was he really that bad? How drunk was I?" :-?

Rdkopper 04-07-2022 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by superkid (Post 1278653)
I was one of the few to speak positively of the tour after enjoying myself on Sunday but after watching some videos over the past few days I'm fully realizing how dire the situation with his voice is. What a tough week this was, to recap:



-Richie Sambora calls into the wacky Fox & Friends show and appears to be under the influence of something at 5:50am in the morning.

-David Bryan's "Diana the Musical" wins 5 Razzies, including worst picture.

-Jon Bon Jovi has the worst vocal performances of his entire career, and it's not even close.



What a rough week, congrats to Tico for being the only one to not embarrass himself! In fact he's the most talented musician on stage at this point IMO.



Anyways, I believe that word about her poor vocals is going to severely impact ticket sales and interest moving forward, if he continues to try touring like normal. My pipedream is for them to do a 40th anniversary farewell tour with Richie in '24, which would allow them to go out on top selling out stadiums all around the world. Labeling it the "farewell" tour will move tickets like no other trick can, so even if he continues to sound like he does fans will still turnout and be more forgiving of the vocals knowing it's the end. But at the end of the day Jon will make the decision on what the band's future will look like. If he wants to keep milking this for the rest of his life, even without Tico or David, nothing is stopping him.



Watching the video of Bad Medicine from Sunday made me think "Was he really that bad? How drunk was I?" :-?

No need to retract. It's always a different experience being there in person. I've been stating that for years.

I appreciate the feedback from the people who attend in person. There is a reason why people are cheering and not walking out.

I saw Guns and Roses a few years back and could have sworn that Axl sounded exactly the same when I was there... I couldn't have been more shocked to listen to the show on YouTube the next day.

Alcohol, Acoustics, The Crowd Noise, Etc. all plays into it.

You're also watching the entire show from start to finish. It's My Life is somewhat plausible. It's out of the middle register so he can semi pull it off... He just struggles with the higher notes do to his age which is to be expected and forgiven.

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Xavi 04-07-2022 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1278639)
Honestly, I think we're already looking at it.

I think the same.

bonjovi90 04-07-2022 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_jovi (Post 1278639)
Honestly, I think we're already looking at it.

I honestly think so too. Of course they don't communicate it that way, but there are some signs that Jon took it as a "do or die" month. Some time before the tour, I think Tico and Phil had both hinted at possible other tour dates/locations/legs. Jon knew he couldn't do it in the way like it had ended in 2019. So he pulled the band together for three weeks of rehearsals in a desperate attempt to see if they can get it to somehow work by playing it all in an even lower key. Kudos to him for at least trying all these options.
But there had already been a quote from him on Sirius that they were not doing anymore past these 15 odd dates and that must've been around the early rehearsal days. So I feel that he knew by then it wasn't really gonna work better that way.
And in one of the recent news he had mentioned again that it wasn't more than these 15 dates. I think he has realized that it ain't gonna go on anymore. And everyone with a working set of ears has so, too.

Walleris 04-07-2022 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bonjovi90 (Post 1278669)
I honestly think so too. Of course they don't communicate it that way, but there are some signs that Jon took it as a "do or die" month. Some time before the tour, I think Tico and Phil had both hinted at possible other tour dates/locations/legs. Jon knew he couldn't do it in the way like it had ended in 2019. So he pulled the band together for three weeks of rehearsals in a desperate attempt to see if they can get it to somehow work by playing it all in an even lower key. Kudos to him for at least trying all these options.
But there had already been a quote from him on Sirius that they were not doing anymore past these 15 odd dates and that must've been around the early rehearsal days. So I feel that he knew by then it wasn't really gonna work better that way.
And in one of the recent news he had mentioned again that it wasn't more than these 15 dates. I think he has realized that it ain't gonna go on anymore. And everyone with a working set of ears has so, too.

These were my exact thoughts during the early days of the THINFS tour when it became clear it wasn't ever gonna get any better for Jon vocally. I thought no way he's gonna come to Europe with this voice, but I was clearly wrong. Before the pandemic he even booked the tour with Bryan Adams, a peer of his from the same era who still sounds great, which was an absolutely crazy idea, because it would've exposed him even further to people with ears. But my guess is he believes his audience does not know or care enough to massive extent and the ticket sales show that he is correct. I know the further decline and the corresponding key change in the songs is a sign of awareness, but I think this was to make the shows manageable for another few years, because just last year he was still shouting them in the usual half-step arrangements.

Moreover, if this was the end, I'm having trouble believing Jon would miss the chance of promoting this as a farewell tour, he is way too business smart for that.

I hope I'm proven wrong, but I don't think he's going anywhere.

liljovi93 04-07-2022 05:46 PM

I still think these dates will finish. They will finish another album and release it towards the end of this year/early next with the boxset release summer 2023.

A 40th year anniversary tour will be announced, they'll tour Europe and finish again with Australia and back to America and that'll be it.

It's been a good run but it's a bit too late now. I can't sit through a performance.

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blazeofglory 04-07-2022 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by liljovi93 (Post 1278678)
I still think these dates will finish. They will finish another album and release it towards the end of this year/early next with the boxset release summer 2023.

A 40th year anniversary tour will be announced, they'll tour Europe and finish again with Australia and back to America and that'll be it.

It's been a good run but it's a bit too late now. I can't sit through a performance.

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I could see it going something like this as well.

When the time comes and they stop touring for good, I think Jon will want to go out with a bang (you could say…in a blaze of glory ;)) and a big 40th anniversary + farewell world tour would be the perfect way to do that. I really can’t see him wanting to end it by kinda just fading away and fizzling out with a short US tour that doesn’t even include shows in the biggest and most important locations.


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Rdkopper 04-07-2022 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blazeofglory (Post 1278679)
I could see it going something like this as well.

When the time comes and they stop touring for good, I think Jon will want to go out with a bang (you could say…in a blaze of glory ;)) and a big 40th anniversary + farewell world tour would be the perfect way to do that. I really can’t see him wanting to end it by kinda just fading away and fizzling out with a short US tour that doesn’t even include shows in the biggest and most important locations.


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That is a cool intro with Jon playing the maracas. Jon physically looks great up there and that's what makes it so depressing. Guys like Vince Neil who are equally struggling vocally are in terrible shape and he looks like a train ran him over.

Jon is the opposite. He looks terrific and is fully energized. Jon is a creature of habit.

He's probably the same way with his vocal coach as he is with Jon Shanks... but I think he needs to find someone who can guide him in a better direction with restructuring his songs.

Faceman 04-07-2022 08:30 PM

They didn't celebrate 10 years.
They didn't celebrate 20 years. (Yes, the Box Set coincided with that date. But the focus lay on the 100 million album milestone. And 1 one-off show isn't a celebration)
They didn't celebrate 30 years.

What makes you think they would celebrate 40 years?

Regarding Jon's vocals:
The later part of the Because We Can tour wasn't good anymore.
The short 2015 tour was bad.
The This House Is Not For Sale tour was worse.
The 2022 tour is a desaster.

What makes you think will happen that makes Jon able to go out with a bang?

Some of you here write that this tour makes Jon finally realize that it's better to give up touring because his vocals can't keep up anymore, his vocals can't even keep up for 15 dates.
What makes you think that same Jon has the idea to do another world tour to wave goodbye to the fans?

Sorry guys, this is daydreaming what you're doing.
When the band = Jon calls it quits, the public won't get to know. Because he just won't do it anymore. In best case he announces a break. And that break will get longer and longer and longer...


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